The underdogs
Jon Lawes | 29/04/2018 22:00:24 |
![]() 1078 forum posts | It's true, I can't help but love the underdog. My Daily driver is the worlds least loved Porsche (the 924), my fun weekend car is the car that had a terrible reputation for killing people during oversteer moments (Triumph GT6), and if I was a fan of football I'd almost certainly be following Accrington Stanley or somesuch. Which brings me on to my live steam interest; does anyone know if anyone has ever modelled any of the Austerity locomotives? I'm sure the Hunslet 0-6-0 has been copied, but what about the WD Austerity 2-8-0? And more importantly, the ultimate ugly duckling, the SR Q1 class? I'm cutting my teeth on a Stuart 10H, but one day once I've refined some skills I'd love to tackle a Q1. I realise its a shape that would make kids run screaming but I'm smitten with anything that has function over form. Has anyone had a crack at one of these?
Thanks, Jon. |
Dave Smith 14 | 29/04/2018 22:31:58 |
222 forum posts 48 photos | Jon Couple of links for you http://modeleng.proboards.com/thread/12053/5-bulleid-q1 Look at the Q1 page on this site http://www.bulleidlocos.org.uk/_q1/q1Class.aspx Dave
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Jon Lawes | 29/04/2018 22:35:50 |
![]() 1078 forum posts | Thats fantastic, thanks Dave! So glad these have been recognised. |
duncan webster | 30/04/2018 00:06:09 |
5307 forum posts 83 photos | LBSC covered Austerity 2-8-0, Austere Ada |
Another JohnS | 30/04/2018 03:22:57 |
842 forum posts 56 photos | Jon; Duncan; Nick Feast did a beautiful job of design, writeup and construction of a Q1 in these pages. Castings from Polly/Bruce Engineering. 3-1/2" gauge. LBSC also did the S160, the American locomotive that was shipped over to Britain/Europe, and eventually went everywhere. 2-1/2" gauge. Aster did the BR52, German war locomotive, in Gauge 1. It's in kit form, though sold out. Aster also did the SNCF 141R, built in 2 places in Canada and one in the USA, something like 1300 were shipped over at the end of hostilities. Can't think of any others at the moment.
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Clive India | 30/04/2018 08:08:47 |
![]() 277 forum posts | Posted by duncan webster on 30/04/2018 00:06:09:
LBSC covered Austerity 2-8-0, Austere Ada You wouldn't want to meet up with her on a Saturday night! I'm not sure what is included in austerity. Obviously the 2-10-0 and 2-8-0 were and so was the Q1. Would people consider the Ivatt 2 and Ivatt 4 to be austerity? Any others? Edited By Clive India on 30/04/2018 08:11:35 |
Mick B1 | 30/04/2018 09:31:29 |
2444 forum posts 139 photos | You could try the American 2-10-0 S160, built for UK/European wartime use and postwar reconstruction. It bears a passing resemblance to Austere Ada, and the Churnet Valley Railway has 2 (full size) runners. Info from Taunton model engineers here:- http://www.tauntonme.org.uk/oilyrag/images/spring2013web.pdf |
julian atkins | 30/04/2018 10:57:04 |
![]() 1285 forum posts 353 photos | Hi Jon, Blackgates now market the Clarkson range, and included is the 5"g 2-10-0 WD Austerity loco. You can download the Clarkson catalogue on the Blackgates website. Cheers, Julian |
Jon Lawes | 30/04/2018 12:45:06 |
![]() 1078 forum posts | That's some excellent leads, thank you. I'm a little constricted due to the size of my lathe (Myford ML7) but I'm sure I'll find something of interest.
Thanks again,
Jon. |
John Purdy | 30/04/2018 18:58:16 |
![]() 431 forum posts 252 photos | Jon Nick Feast's building of the Q1 ran for 28 installments in ME from Vol. 202, 05 Jun.2009 issue 4353 to Vol. 206, 08 Apr. 2011 issue 4401. John |
Jon Lawes | 30/04/2018 21:07:27 |
![]() 1078 forum posts | I'm mainly glad someone has done it. Such a soft spot for these ugly ducklings. |
Clive India | 03/05/2018 08:33:58 |
![]() 277 forum posts | Posted by Clive India on 30/04/2018 08:08:47:
Posted by duncan webster on 30/04/2018 00:06:09:
LBSC covered Austerity 2-8-0, Austere Ada You wouldn't want to meet up with her on a Saturday night! I'm not sure what is included in austerity. Obviously the 2-10-0 and 2-8-0 were and so was the Q1. Would people consider the Ivatt 2 and Ivatt 4 to be austerity? Any others? Apologies, silly me - not even worth commenting on? |
Peter Layfield | 03/05/2018 08:54:14 |
37 forum posts | There are 5" gauge models of the Austerity 0-6-0 running, and there are a number of the 2-10-0,s about and a really brilliant 2-8-0 in Holland that is brought over to U.K. on visits to club tracks, but as already said see Blackgates catalogue with the Clarkson designs |
william Powell | 04/05/2018 10:00:07 |
![]() 12 forum posts 2 photos | Hi Jon Nick Feast in a member of the local club, and his fleet (he has 3 Q1's!) all run well. It is a good size, in that its not too heavy to lift into the car/work bench or track. I belive that he has updated the drawings to remove any errors. I am building one in 5" gauge (thats the link to it at Model pro boards) Its worth dropping Rob Spears a email a Bulleid builders group, there is a lot of information on them. The Myford should be fine for the 3 1/2" gauge loco. I remachined the wheels on my Drummond with no problems. Cylinder block could be machined between centres or on a Keats angle plate. Will |
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