Where's it gone?
Bazyle | 19/06/2017 15:31:27 |
![]() 6956 forum posts 229 photos | Put "Diametric Pitch" into Google (without the inverted commas ) and it insists on giving me "Diametral Pitch" and it seems Wikipedia only wants that word too. Am I having a senior moment? Using the restricted search on the home page for this forum agrees with me as does the forum spellchecker. If I force it I can get some results but I just don't recall coming across this before and have a reasonable vocab. As an aside I casually used the word "alacrity" in a meeting recently and nobody else knew what it meant |
SillyOldDuffer | 19/06/2017 15:45:26 |
10668 forum posts 2415 photos | Posted by Bazyle on 19/06/2017 15:31:27:
Put "Diametric Pitch" into Google (without the inverted commas ) and it insists on giving me "Diametral Pitch" and it seems Wikipedia only wants that word too. Am I having a senior moment? ...
You're in very good company if it's a senior moment. The bad news is that none of my books support 'Diametric Pitch'. As far as I can tell it's been diametral at least since 1939. Time for you to go metric perhaps, there's no such confusion with 'module'. Dave |
richardandtracy | 19/06/2017 16:03:22 |
![]() 943 forum posts 10 photos | I have BS 436: Part 1:1967 on my desk at the moment. It's 'Specification for Spur and Helical Gears... (diametral pitch series)' So I can confirm it's been 'diametral' since at least 1967... Regards, Richard |
Mark Rand | 19/06/2017 16:17:30 |
1505 forum posts 56 photos | Sod that, I'm not going metric. I'll go metral instead Edited By Mark Rand on 19/06/2017 16:17:55 |
Jeff Dayman | 19/06/2017 16:26:30 |
2356 forum posts 47 photos | Metral, eh Mark Rand? Would you use millmetrals to measure diametric pitch then? Or gunits? Just joking. When talking Imperial size gear teeth sizes, diametral pitch is the term used, not diametric, in North America. When talking metric gear teeth sizes, module is used in North America. JD |
Michael Gilligan | 19/06/2017 16:35:10 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Bazyle on 19/06/2017 15:31:27:
Put "Diametric Pitch" into Google (without the inverted commas ) and it insists on giving me "Diametral Pitch" . With or without the inverted commas, and with or without capitalisation ... what you seek is only a click away: . . MichaelG. Edited By Michael Gilligan on 19/06/2017 16:37:35 |
Bazyle | 19/06/2017 17:10:50 |
![]() 6956 forum posts 229 photos | Well at least that comes up with plenty of hits too so it is in common usage. Also a link to " diametrical " pitch which is also in the forum spell checker whereas diametral gets red lined.
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SillyOldDuffer | 19/06/2017 17:34:16 |
10668 forum posts 2415 photos | Posted by Mark Rand on 19/06/2017 16:17:30:
Sod that, I'm not going metric. I'll go metral instead Edited By Mark Rand on 19/06/2017 16:17:55 We metric zealots must be wiseacres... |
duncan webster | 19/06/2017 17:52:42 |
5307 forum posts 83 photos | Diametral or Diametric. Does it matter? We know what you mean. Some people need to get out more
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John Stevenson | 19/06/2017 17:57:55 |
![]() 5068 forum posts 3 photos | Bazyle you only get 127 hits because its the prime of 25.4 which is modular. Sorry I'll get me coat |
Tim Stevens | 19/06/2017 18:17:03 |
![]() 1779 forum posts 1 photos | Using the word alacrity is nugatory. Tim |
Michael Gilligan | 19/06/2017 20:41:41 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | It's a subtle distinction, Bazyle ... but I believe that:
MichaelG. |
Michael Gilligan | 19/06/2017 20:42:59 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 19/06/2017 17:34:16:
We metric zealots must be wiseacres... . Hectarious, Dave MichaelG. |
Enough! | 20/06/2017 01:33:43 |
1719 forum posts 1 photos | Posted by Michael Gilligan on 19/06/2017 20:41:41:
It's a subtle distinction, Bazyle ... but I believe that:
Then there's "diametrical" according to my OED .... but not "diametralic". Edited By Bandersnatch on 20/06/2017 01:35:47 |
Hopper | 20/06/2017 04:16:25 |
![]() 7881 forum posts 397 photos | Diametral would seem to fit with circumfrential, radial, axial and so forth. But both the -ic and and -al suffixes mean "relating to" so six of one and half a dozen of the other really. (Or five of one and 0.5 of a metric dozen of the other if you are that way inclined.) |
Michael Gilligan | 20/06/2017 06:08:19 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Bandersnatch on 20/06/2017 01:33:43:
Posted by Michael Gilligan on 19/06/2017 20:41:41:
Then there's "diametrical" according to my OED .... but not "diametralic". .
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Michael Gilligan | 20/06/2017 06:19:55 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Hopper, I've just found this: **LINK** http://wikidiff.com/diametral/diametric ... which I think you will appreciate. After trying [as did I] to describe the distiction, they then list synonyms MichaelG. |
Mike E. | 20/06/2017 08:57:57 |
![]() 217 forum posts 24 photos | Posted by richardandtracy on 19/06/2017 16:03:22:
I have BS 436: Part 1:1967 on my desk at the moment. It's 'Specification for Spur and Helical Gears... (diametral pitch series)' So I can confirm it's been 'diametral' since at least 1967... Regards, Richard
Since at least 1955, according to my earliest Machinery's Handbook.
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Neil A | 20/06/2017 14:02:35 |
160 forum posts | Diametral Pitch was used in BS 436: 1940 Machine Cut Gears. I also have a copy of Machine Cut Gears from David Brown dated 1921 which refers to Diametral Pitch. The introduction in the book says that it is a reprint of their 1903 book. I have nothing earlier, but the term seems to have been in use for a long time. But I agree with Duncan, we all know what you mean, most of the time we just use the symbol DP and not worry what it stands for. Neil Edited By Neil A on 20/06/2017 14:06:43 |
Enough! | 20/06/2017 14:38:46 |
1719 forum posts 1 photos | Posted by Mike E. on 20/06/2017 08:57:57:
Since at least 1955, according to my earliest Machinery's Handbook.
Oh, I see Neil A snuck in with a 1903 |
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