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choochoo_baloo17/08/2016 16:07:57
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Having had a brief browse of the likes of arceurotrade, chronos etc I cannot seem to find plain looking arbor/key way mounted milling cutters for a horizontal milling machine.

Please could someone suggest/link sellers of these various shape cutters.

JasonB17/08/2016 16:16:16
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MSC do side & face cutters as well as various profiles like concave & convex to fit a Horz mill

Thor 🇳🇴17/08/2016 17:04:20
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As does Tap & Die Co or C.R. Tools. I don't know if they have minimum orders though.

Thor

John Stevenson17/08/2016 17:10:08
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Where are you located ? I'm over at Nottingham and have got shed loads I need to get rid off.
Alternatively job lots often come up on eBay
Bazyle17/08/2016 17:12:02
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Occasionally brand new ones appear on ebay. Machine traders like Home and Workshop sell used ones so probably also sometimes pickup unused ones with a machine. Might be worth asking for a specific size.

Edited By Bazyle on 17/08/2016 17:14:27

Saxalby17/08/2016 18:02:31
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Try gandmtools - bought lots of various sizes from them for my Senior horizontal mill.

MW17/08/2016 18:24:46
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Tends to be a bundle of them on ebay. For some reason these tend to be less popular, i'm pretty sure HBM would've started making them, pretty much isn't a tool they won't make.

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Roderick Jenkins17/08/2016 18:28:36
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Sadly, I think you might struggle to find 1/2" bore cutters for your Flexispeed mill sad

Hope I'm wrong.

Rod

Swarf, Mostly!17/08/2016 19:02:54
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Posted by Roderick Jenkins on 17/08/2016 18:28:36:

Sadly, I think you might struggle to find 1/2" bore cutters for your Flexispeed mill sad

Hope I'm wrong.

Rod

Not only that but the distance between the arbor and the over-arm limits the cutter diameter to something in the order of 3½ inches. I found a few on eBay.

By the way, C-B, I can't seem to access your photo? Is your mill the version with back-gear and the motor in the base-box? I have a Mk 1 and need to contrive a counter-shaft and motor mount before I can use it.

Best regards,

Swarf, Mostly!

Ian S C18/08/2016 11:19:42
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There should be nothing against putting a bush in the bore of a cutter with a larger bore.

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choochoo_baloo18/08/2016 23:21:21
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Thanks all for the input. I alway appreciate hearing from those more experienced than myself.

Now that I've had a chance to unpack my Flexispeed Mk2 mill from the pallet, I went to detach the arbor etc to see how the arbor and 2MT socket all go together (I am a newcomer to metalwork).....but......

I cannot fathom how to remove the arbor. I've tried to undo what I assume is a drawbar bolt at the end of the shaft, (far right of third image), but when applying a spanner the spindle just keeps turning round. I've loosened off a few grub screws that may be locking something too.

Thus by uploading some photos I was hoping that someone can point out what I need to do to take the arbor out, and explain what some of the various components do!

NB the second photo shows the arbor after removing: locking nut, cutter and spacers (seen originally fitted in the first image).

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Edited By choochoo_baloo on 18/08/2016 23:30:10

Andrew Johnston19/08/2016 00:23:18
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The bolt on the extreme right, third picture is the arbor drawbar. To stop the spindle turning when undoing the drawbar I put my horizontal mill in low gear and then clonk the spanner with a nylon mallet - bit like an impact wrench.

Andrew

JasonB19/08/2016 07:31:58
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You will also need to loosen the cap head screw in the top of the overarm bracket, top of first pic and slide that casting off. Or the two bolts at the sid eof the rear brackets so the arm will slide out forwards.

Once the drawbar is about 1 turn undone give it a tap with a copper or lead hammer which will break the hold of teh MT taper. Not if it has been in for a long time this may be harder to loosen than the usual tap required. Once the spindle is free just unlind teh drawbar fully and it can be removed

Edited By JasonB on 19/08/2016 07:32:48

Raymond Anderson19/08/2016 15:24:29
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If you go to the thread "slitting saws " Muzzer created a link to me dropbox . There you will see the Jones tool catalogue, Horizontal milling cutters and slitting /slotting saws. They might be of no use to your mill, but have a look see. and you will know yourself.

choochoo_baloo19/08/2016 23:52:24
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Managed to remove the drawbar and arbor after following the advice above, so thanks!

I assumed that all horizontal mills had a keyway on the arbor. Mine doesn't seem to which concerns me. Am I right in saying that a keyway is critical for any horizontal milling, since spacers do just as the name implies and don't act as clamps as is currently the case?

Roderick Jenkins20/08/2016 09:42:41
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Don't worry about the lack of keyway. The spacers give adequate force as clamps on low power machines. My Sharp mill has a 1" keyless arbor and drives a 2.5" x 3" slabbing cutter without problems.

Myford provided a horizontal milling arbor for use between centres on their lathes and this is 1/2" diameter and also keyless.

Rod

not done it yet23/08/2016 20:57:37
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My 1'' Centec does not have a keyway. Sorry for my perhaps misleading post earlier, but after hunting the net the Mk2 seemed to be fitted with a simple vertical head which clamped to the arbor support bar. Can't locate that pic since. There was me thinking it might be like my Centec, but on a much smaller scale.

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