Ed Phelps 1 | 21/04/2016 23:46:42 |
8 forum posts | I'm unhappy with the various Chinese tilting tables being sold and I would like to machine my own. I seem to remember at one time someone sold castings for these. Does anyone remember these kits and are they still available?
Thanks, Ed P |
John Reese | 22/04/2016 02:03:03 |
![]() 1071 forum posts | Hemmingway? |
Michael Checkley | 22/04/2016 08:01:57 |
![]() 121 forum posts 66 photos | My castings came from College Engineering Supply. The parts were still on their website the last time I looked. |
Michael Gilligan | 22/04/2016 08:37:58 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Michael CES lists Tilting Angle Plates **LINK** ... is that what you have? or do/did they list anything with a large bearing? [more like this style] MichaelG. Edited By Michael Gilligan on 22/04/2016 08:40:58 |
John Haine | 22/04/2016 08:42:28 |
5563 forum posts 322 photos | I guess one approach is to buy a Chinese one and treat it as a casting kit? |
Emgee | 22/04/2016 09:23:07 |
2610 forum posts 312 photos | Another option is the 6 1/2" x 4" Sine table by Dave Lammas, solid bit of kit. Castings available from Blackgates at Emgee Edited By Emgee on 22/04/2016 09:24:01 |
Roderick Jenkins | 22/04/2016 09:42:15 |
![]() 2376 forum posts 800 photos | This one came as a kit from Model Engineering Services - the same people who sold the Quorn castings. MES are sadly now defunct, I don't know if anybody has taken over the patterns, it's a very solid piece of kit.. And, yes, items do sometimes slip when machining - as evidenced by that slot HTH (but not much) Rod |
Michael Cox 1 | 22/04/2016 10:11:50 |
555 forum posts 27 photos | I have only rarely needed a tilting table and Icould not justify the expense of a purposed made unit. However, I had a tilting vice and I made a small tee slot table that clamped in the vice, see: http://mikesworkshop.weebly.com/tilting-table.html Mike |
Michael Gilligan | 22/04/2016 10:30:40 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Roderick Jenkins on 22/04/2016 09:42:15:
This one came as a kit from Model Engineering Services - the same people who sold the Quorn castings. MES are sadly now defunct, I don't know if anybody has taken over the patterns, it's a very solid piece of kit.. . Thanks for posting that, Rod ... It saves me wondering where I had seen it. Sad loss, M.E.S. MichaelG. |
Neil Lickfold | 22/04/2016 10:34:53 |
1025 forum posts 204 photos | John Haine has it right. It sometimes takes longer to rework something over making new depending on the errors and what is required to be able to rework it. I assume that since you are after a kit, have the capacity to rework the one you have. The advantage of reworking stuff, is you will know where and how much the errors are. Then you can decide if it is acceptable or not. Neil |
Neil Wyatt | 22/04/2016 11:42:58 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Posted by Roderick Jenkins on 22/04/2016 09:42:15:
This one came as a kit from Model Engineering Services - the same people who sold the Quorn castings. MES are sadly now defunct, I don't know if anybody has taken over the patterns, it's a very solid piece of kit.. I think Ivan and Mike Law still have the patterns for the MES products, but I don't think they are planning on going back into production. Neil Neil |
Ed Phelps 1 | 26/04/2016 00:51:03 |
8 forum posts | Posted by Michael Gilligan on 22/04/2016 08:37:58:
Michael CES lists Tilting Angle Plates **LINK** ... is that what you have? or do/did they list anything with a large bearing? [more like this style] MichaelG. Edited By Michael Gilligan on 22/04/2016 08:40:58
I'm looking for the one shown in your second link. I've found a supplier of a Chinese 5"x7" over here in the States for just $58.00. At that price I'll take a chance that I can treat it like a kit and make something useful out of it! Thanks for everyone's comments. Ed P |
John Hinkley | 26/04/2016 07:15:51 |
![]() 1545 forum posts 484 photos | Ed, Since you've decided to go down the reworking route, it might be helpful for you to have a look at Stefan Gotteswinter's YouTube feed. He's just uploaded a video showing how he has approached this very procedure. Only part one, so far, but interesting nevertheless. His other projects are an easy way to lose a few hours as well! Just search for his name on YouTube and you'll find it. John P.S. For scraping aficionados, he uses a power tool to take the hard graft out of scraping the base flat! |
Chris Evans 6 | 26/04/2016 08:59:09 |
![]() 2156 forum posts | I have castings for a swivelling/tilting table. Patterns made by my Sisters Partner and I got two sets cast, I will start machining in the next week or so. I will cheat and go into where I used to work and surface grind the faces. |
Michael Checkley | 26/04/2016 10:04:48 |
![]() 121 forum posts 66 photos | I have the 559 castings from CES so not as robust as the one shown in your second link. I wasn't too bothered about a scale as I plan on measuring the angle each time it is set and clamped.
Edited By Michael Checkley on 26/04/2016 10:05:57 |
Steve Pavey | 26/04/2016 10:16:06 |
369 forum posts 41 photos | Posted by John Hinkley on 26/04/2016 07:15:51:
Ed, Since you've decided to go down the reworking route, it might be helpful for you to have a look at Stefan Gotteswinter's YouTube feed... P.S. For scraping aficionados, he uses a power tool to take the hard graft out of scraping the base flat! Seconded. As he says, he couldn't have bought the materials to make his own for the price of the one he got. His workmanship is first rate on all his projects. Incidentally. for a cheap power scraper there are electric power chisels available - I have a Bosch one (now discontinued I think), they might work as a scraper for cast iron with the right blade. |
Raymond Anderson | 26/04/2016 10:20:32 |
![]() 785 forum posts 152 photos | Hope this has some relevance, This is a tilting table I made a few years back. Although its from scratch and not a kit. It is all Meehanite, except the threaded pivots and their nuts [EN24t] and the threaded inserts [EN24T @ M8] I decided to have a go at hand scraping the plate surface after it was milled, although it took 2 days I feel it was worth it as it is flat to within 0.005mm anywhere. The scraping was actually quite enjoyable but not something I would want to do full time !! It tilts 95deg either side of horizontal and as you would expect from something that weighs in at a shade over 68kg's VERY rigid. The pivots pins are 24mm Ø threaded 1.25mm pitch [ EN 24T] and are 1 left hand thread and 1 right hand thread. The inserts are 25mm ctc and are also EN24T they have a flange on the rear and when they were all pulled home tight sit approx 0.25mm below the surface. It doesn't ever move from where it is set regardless of how heavy a cut is taken. Were I to make another one, I would design in a tilting mechanism as you must ensure you have a good hold of it when you loosen the pivot nuts!! If not, then you will have around about 35kg's of Meehanite plate either tilting away from you or toward you [and you don't want any digits between the table and the milling machine bed ] if you don't have control over it, or else its a trip to the KRANKENHAUS !! This genuine Meehanite is a sheer joy to machine and work with, although very dirty. Hope this has been of interest. Cheers. |
Harold Hall 1 | 26/04/2016 10:35:53 |
418 forum posts 4 photos | I have made the CES tilting angle plate but as is almost always the case with commercial angle plates, fixed and tilting, the provision for securing workpieces on it was limited. three slots in this case. Fortunately, the casting was very substantial and thick enough to include tee slots. So in addition to the three vertical slots I added three horizontal tee slots. See my efforts here here Harold |
RICHARD GREEN 2 | 26/04/2016 11:05:19 |
329 forum posts 193 photos | Here is the tilting table that I use on an elliott U2 mill, it is 6"x 8" and has 3 T slots, I like the T slots better than plain slots, it is quite old but is in nice condition. Richard. |
Raymond Anderson | 26/04/2016 12:43:39 |
![]() 785 forum posts 152 photos | Edit, the threaded inserts are on 30mm ctc.not 25mm. also table thickness after milling and scraping 30.68mm. |
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