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Roy James 221/09/2015 17:04:04
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Hello all,

I have the drawings for the ML7 clutch from issue 5 1991, which I would like to

adapt to my old, (very old ML2), can someone inform me of the material used

between the two cones ? I have been unable to access the article in question.

james

Gray6221/09/2015 17:56:01
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Hi James, the conical face of the clutch was covered with leather.

Graeme

Roy James 221/09/2015 18:29:23
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Graeme W, Thank you, overall, quite thick stuff at over 1/8"..

james

Neil Wyatt21/09/2015 18:37:30
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I'm sure some people have used cast iron on cast iron.

Neil

Gray6221/09/2015 18:42:39
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Quite true Neil, in fact the cone clutch on my Studer cylindrical grinder is CI on CI and works very well

Michael Gilligan21/09/2015 18:53:34
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Posted by Roy James 2 on 21/09/2015 18:29:23:

Graeme W, Thank you, overall, quite thick stuff at over 1/8"..

james

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The author specifically mentions 'old leather belting'

I suspect that this was machine belting [rather than what holds your trousers up].

MichaelG.

Roy James 222/09/2015 20:43:08
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Thanks to you all,

I have a couple more questions regarding said clutch, can I use copper as a bearing (5) on the counter shaft

pulley, it's only 6" dia, (unit all made many moons ago). I am considering casting the cones in ali, is there a reason

why parts 3&4 are separate, could they be made as one ? ( Bit daunting having to cut threads ).

james

daveb22/09/2015 22:58:07
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Copper isn't ideal but why bother? Porous bronze bushes are not too expensive.

Robbo23/09/2015 23:44:33
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James,

Parts 3 & 4 are separate as there was at the time a perceived difficulty in buying alloy of the required diameter in the necessary thickness. So the part was made in 2pieces. Nowadays material should be available to make it from a single piece.

Robbo24/09/2015 14:21:05
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James,

I have sent you a message about the clutch, check your inbox, top green bar on screen, second icon from left.

john fletcher 124/09/2015 17:02:05
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I made the clutch for my ML7 and it worked well in the end. I did use bit of soft leather belting, initially the clutch slipped badly, then some one suggested I get a block of rosin as used by violinists. I crushed the rosin into chips then into a powder. I ran the lathe and opened up the clutch and sprinkled in the powder, did it a couple of times and the problem was solved. I still have the magazine and drawing somewhere. John

Neil Wyatt24/09/2015 19:41:06
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> can I use copper as a bearing (5) on the counter shaft

Leaded copper is actually used as a bearing material, comparable to babbitt metal, but its main limitation is that it wears easily. I would avoid it as constant lubrication would be critical..

Neil

Roy James 214/10/2015 19:43:42
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I am going to the Midlands Exhibition, I would like to buy a 4", 4 jaw adjustable chuck for the old Myford ML2, can anyone recommend one of the many sold by the like of Chronas etc? Would also need a back plate. Is it easy

to fit?

Have to cut the keyway in the shaft of the clutch mod, I have no miller, nor verticle slide, how to do it?

james

David Clark 114/10/2015 20:55:27
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It is easy to fit. Just turn it on the lathe you are using the chuck on so it is true. Hold the shaft in the chuck supported by a centre, use the back gear to stop the shaft from rotating. Cut the slot with a lathe tool ground to fit used on its side and rack the carriage back and forth to form the groove.

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