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Alan Waddington 204/08/2015 22:35:53
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Just spotted this on ebay.....I'm all for a challenge, but reckon if this poor mill was a horse it would be kinder to shoot it....what a shame ! One brave bidder so far.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KRV3000-Milling-Machine-/281765705961?_trksid=p2054897.l4275

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Martin Cottrell04/08/2015 23:00:40
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Blimey, I can't believe someone has actually placed a bid of £500 for that poor wreck! Even more implausible is the statement "Not been used for years but all works."!!

Martin.

Ian Parkin04/08/2015 23:01:46
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If you look at the bidder who has bravely bid and the lathe that the seller is selling also ,the bidders have low feedback and have been bidding a lot on lots of items and quite a lot of bid retractions something fishy going on here I feel

Ajohnw04/08/2015 23:35:23
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If some one has a rather deep swimming pool and a lot of molasses it might clean up nicely.


Sad really as it does look like a decent milling machine - possibly rescued from a scrap yard by the look of it.

John

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Ajohnw04/08/2015 23:39:55
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Posted by Ian Parkin on 04/08/2015 23:01:46:

If you look at the bidder who has bravely bid and the lathe that the seller is selling also ,the bidders have low feedback and have been bidding a lot on lots of items and quite a lot of bid retractions something fishy going on here I feel

There is a lot of that sort of thing goes on in certain areas - some one just bidding things up, or trying.

john

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Boiler Bri05/08/2015 03:55:31
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Skip springs to mind 😜

Robbo05/08/2015 09:12:03
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"something fishy going on here I feel"

Well it is in Whitby!

Robbo05/08/2015 09:20:52
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And I thought this one was in a bad way! **LINK**

Ian P05/08/2015 09:22:45
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Posted by John W1 on 04/08/2015 23:35:23:

Sad really as it does look like a decent milling machine - possibly rescued from a scrap yard by the look of it.

John

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It does look as if its already in a scrapyard judging by the way they have swept up to take photographs.!

I have heard of machines with light surface rust from not being used but that looks beyond Scotchbrite and oil (the machinery dealers main tools).

Ian P

David Clark 105/08/2015 09:46:12
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I think this is available with a two axis protrack CNC system. It may well be cheaper than buying spares.

Ajohnw05/08/2015 09:46:18
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Posted by Ian Phillips on 05/08/2015 09:22:45:
Posted by John W1 on 04/08/2015 23:35:23:

Sad really as it does look like a decent milling machine - possibly rescued from a scrap yard by the look of it.

John

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It does look as if its already in a scrapyard judging by the way they have swept up to take photographs.!

I have heard of machines with light surface rust from not being used but that looks beyond Scotchbrite and oil (the machinery dealers main tools).

Ian P

The dealers I used to visit a lot used paraffin and wet and dry and as they pointed out the work couldn't be seen afterwards and the machines were still ok.

Some one on an astro forum has been using electrolysis. It looks like it works well and large things can be done via a plate with wet towels between the plate and the surface.

There was a gardener of all people in B'ham that really liked to find machines with crusty rust on them. It took ages but he put something on it and it all slowly came off. No one knows what but it took months. He might even still be around.

John

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Involute Curve05/08/2015 10:07:23
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Those bids a probably from the seller you can do this as you list it its a way of starting the bidding higher that zero but not having a reserve, in Whitby there are a lot of boat yards that have simply been abandoned, I suspect some one is clearing one out and is kidding them selves about the value of said items........

John Stevenson05/08/2015 10:18:36
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Nothing wrong with it, just been badly described.

They are listing it as a mill instead of a boat anchor.

Ian P05/08/2015 13:44:08
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Posted by David Clark 1 on 05/08/2015 09:46:12:

I think this is available with a two axis protrack CNC system. It may well be cheaper than buying spares.

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Ian

Ajohnw05/08/2015 13:51:55
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I feel that ebay is getting to be a sad place for buying used machine tools. The prices of the old stuff have increased to silly levels really. Take this one, sad reason for the sale but the only comment in the listing is interested - a foot pump and a can ?

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Part of the problem is that people will pay £200 or more for things that just aren't really worth that much. All ok usually just means the chuck spins if it's fitted with a motor and and the rest can be moved about. The missing part from this particular one seems to be the treadle. Any thing is generally OK for a model engineer it seems even from people that know what they are selling. If its vaguely suitable for clock making watch the price soar. Clapped out Schaublins have always fascinated me. They often crop up.

laughI feel that their scrap value aught to be mentioned in the listings and prices limited to 50% more in many cases. I once had a fairly hefty weight of cast iron about so phoned a dealer to get a price for it - not worth the cost of the diesel to get it there.

John

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Ajohnw11/08/2015 17:28:46
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I feel this one should be added to this thread - It even has a reserve and bids

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Might be classed a Super Dupa Adept project for extremists with a tendency for self harm.

embarrassedReplace the broken bit with brass ????????

I suppose I could be tempted by the shear challenge but.....................

John

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Neil Wyatt11/08/2015 17:57:33
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Posted by John W1 on 11/08/2015 17:28:46:

I feel this one should be added to this thread - It even has a reserve and bids

**LINK**

Might be classed a Super Dupa Adept project for extremists with a tendency for self harm.

embarrassedReplace the broken bit with brass ????????

I suppose I could be tempted by the shear challenge but.....................

John

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Ouch! That would have been a fair deal but with that damage?

I suppose Rainbows will buy it now... devil

Neil

Phil Whitley11/08/2015 18:44:17
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Well Chaps, I think that this is one of those collections of machines that you would have to go and look at before you bid, because if these are machines that are just rusty, but otherwise good, they could be worth buying, but with the opening bids set where they are, I doubt if anyone would bother! Also if you were going to "clean them up for the buyer" then why wouldnt you do that BEFORE taking the pictures, and also move all the junk from around them as well! It never ceases to amaze me that people don't bother. When I first saw the pics of my Covmac, it looked awfull, but when I went to see it before buying it was obvious that it was just covered in a deep layer of muck and dust, with a load of junk around it, and after I bought it, most of it just washed off with parrafin and a bit of scrubbing, to such an extent that I probably won't even repaint it, but these guys have started the bids to high, and for the sake of a few days cleaning, could probably realise far more return than they are going to get at the moment.

Phil

Phil Whitley11/08/2015 18:49:55
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well, they must have heard me, they have just cancelled the miller and the drill as "item no longer available!

Phil

Ajohnw11/08/2015 19:13:20
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 11/08/2015 17:57:33:
Posted by John W1 on 11/08/2015 17:28:46:

I feel this one should be added to this thread - It even has a reserve and bids

**LINK**

Might be classed a Super Dupa Adept project for extremists with a tendency for self harm.

embarrassedReplace the broken bit with brass ????????

I suppose I could be tempted by the shear challenge but.....................

John

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Ouch! That would have been a fair deal but with that damage?

I suppose Rainbows will buy it now... devil

Neil

I suspect the most valuable parts are the lovely wooden handles on the gravers providing there is no wood worm. I did ask what the reserve was to enable me to judge it's value - no reply and in any case as some of it is probably unrecoverable well past it already.

John

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