ken king, King Design | 08/12/2014 22:12:45 |
![]() 144 forum posts 239 photos | A client has asked me to make two 'Cowcatchers' for a large locomotive, each just over two feet wide, made from ⅛" steel bar, 1" and ¾" wide for the forward jutting verticals, crossed by four horizontal rails of 1/8* x ½" section. The drawing showed every crossover fastened through with a nut and bolt, which looked really ugly and much more likely to snag a dead cow than to push it aside, and so I suggested using round head rivets instead, to which the client readily agreed. Hmm .. seven verticals and four rails, that's 28 rivetted joints, times two cowcatchers, so over fifty rivets to set … At this point an image of shipyard rivetters with their powerful hammers making short work of huge rivets came to mind. Having recently used my old hammer-drill to poke holes in a concrete floor, and knowing I could select 'hammer only' I wondered if I could do something similar, albeit on a much smaller scale. Worth a try, I thought. I already had 3/16" x ½" steel rivets to hand, and a pair of hex bodied rivet sets to suit, but how to mount a rivet set in the drill ? The answer was to buy the smallest (and hence, cheapest) SDS drillbit and sacrifice it for the stem ... .. then drill one of my rivet sets to accommodate the shaft. I had to heat the end to soften it first, then drilled and countersunk the hole ... after which the two components wet silver-soldered together, making sure the business end of the set stayed relatively cool. Simple really, and when mounted in the drill it looked quite purposeful ... With the other rivet set mounted solidly in the vice I put together components for a trial go, i.e. two pieces of ⅛" bar, drilled, and located on one of my rivets, its head nestling in the upturned tool in the vice. I picked up the drill, located the tool hollow on the rivet stem, gave it a very short burst of hammer blows, and looked at the result. After more hammering trials, and some modification of the powered set (basically grinding back to make it shallower), it quickly produce very acceptable results. Impressively, the joints were completely rigid after just a second or so, but I carried on for a little longer to get the best finished effect I could. My rivets are just a little too short to give a full round head, hence the shallower set, but it's not worth using ¾" rivets ( the next incremental length available in my searches) as they would be too long and all need shortening. The results achieved give me confidence that the 'cowcatchers' will be rivetted quickly, strongly and uniformly by this method. It works so well that I thought it worth posting here in case others can use the idea. Regards to all, Ken. |
Gray62 | 08/12/2014 22:32:54 |
1058 forum posts 16 photos | That's exactly how I riveted the wheels for my 4" Ruston Proctor SD |
Bodgit Fixit and Run | 08/12/2014 23:02:13 |
91 forum posts 2 photos | Great Idea. Another quick project methinks.
Just a quick idea. Possibly teaching grandma to suck eggs, sorry if I am. Heat the rivets prior to inserting them red hot. Then use the hammer attachment and they will contract when cool making the joint tighter. Edited By Bodgit Fixit and Run on 08/12/2014 23:05:47 |
Michael Gilligan | 09/12/2014 04:07:11 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Bodgit Fixit and Run on 08/12/2014 23:02:13:
Great Idea. . +1 Altough I have no current need; I'm sure the time will come. MichaelG. |
JasonB | 09/12/2014 07:39:15 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | Yes its a popular way to do traction engine wheels especially when they can have several hundread rivits in each. There is not much point in preheating this size rivit as it will not hold the heat and by the time you have got it in the hole and ready to rivit will be cold. Once you get upto about 1/4" dia if you have Oxy then the protruding end can be heated by one person and then hammered home by a second as it does not get time to cool.
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Neil Wyatt | 09/12/2014 20:31:13 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | A great idea for keeping the temper of one end of a smallish workpiece when heating the other is to jab it into a potato. If it fails, you can always console yourself by eating the potato. Neil |
JasonB | 09/12/2014 20:39:25 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | The problem with supporting the other end of the rivit with a potato is that the action of the SDS drill tends to result is mash, mostly spread over the workshop walls. |
fizzy | 09/12/2014 20:52:35 |
![]() 1860 forum posts 121 photos | just add sausage and gravy !!
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OldMetaller | 10/12/2014 09:22:47 |
![]() 208 forum posts 25 photos | Thanks Ken, that's a brilliant idea! Regards, John. |
Gordon W | 10/12/2014 10:47:18 |
2011 forum posts | I have what looks like the same hammer drill. I have found that the grease inside dries out and the percusion action is lost. It is easy to take the end off and relubricate. I used a softer grease and some heavy oil. This seems to be more of a problem when only using the hammer. Otherwise it's a good machine for the price and has done a lot of work. Just thought it worth a mention. |
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