Electric Cars

I haven’t heard about any plans to ban Diesel Lorries. Have you got a link for that? But once again it’s a red herring, cars are the problem not trucks:

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It has to be said though that if truck companies were interested then maybe they could develop clean Petrol Lorries? There were plenty of them around years ago. One element transport companies would love to get rid of is the driver. If fully Autonomous vehicles become a reality then we wouldn’t need the economy of scale of using huge trucks. People have been complaining about them for years. As far as specialist stuff like earth movers etc there are so few of them compared to cars it makes no odds. They also don’t drive through towns chocking people. It’s also worth mentioning that some of the most powerful movers I’ve seen on TV were electric anyway. No doubt Diesel powered but just one engine. Diesel is just not practical for some of these machines except as a generator and that could no doubt be replaced with other methods. I won’t bother mentioning ships, which are admittedly a problem, but once again they don’t go down our high streets. Scrap Diesel cars first, then follow on with other stuff later.

Electric lorries are on the way but this amount of road transport has been nonsense for ages. It needsa radical rethink on the 'just in time' logistics and transport way more by rail to basic hubs or even go back to the jolly old barge idea when cargo is inert. We need to get away from this constant rush to spend and use up resources.

I thoroughly agree.

You do know that the expensive bit of moving goods is not the distance that it travels, but any handling that is required? So moving stuff from A to hub B by rail, to a distribution centre C then to the destination D is much less efficient than forking it onto a truck and going straight from A to D.

As usual, behind the curve! Have a look at this if you don’t believe me. Check up on the large number of electric trucks and vans now available.

HYVE are already working with JCB and JCB are soon to introduce their first all-electric excavator.

If you don’t believe me, read it for yourself, here:

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It would help if all the naysayers would do a little research before posting? Or is it just ‘heads in the sand’ mindset?

What an MSM please ?

Agree. Who says these so-called experts know the answer anyway. It's strange how the world has survived this long having gone through extreme heat and cold over millions of year's, proved by deep core samples, and I don't think cars were on the scene then.

I don't understand how carbon offsetting and green taxes reduce the pollution, it's all about money. I think we have to accept that the roads in Britain are at breaking point, but so are schools, housing, doctor's surgeries, hospitals etc. The common denominator to all our problems is too much demand for everything which equates to too many people around. Looking at it globally, there is not even enough food or water to go around either....too many people!

As soon as the media creates this hysteria about this or anything else, the government has a knee jerk reaction and we all suffer as a result.

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'Barnaby', where did you get the idea 'the EV equivalent of an ICE vehicle costs substantially more to insure?' Can we have some examples please?

And please don't leave us in suspense - what is the 'real reason' insurance underwriters consider an EV to be a greater risk than it's ICE equivalent . . . .

Dave

I personally dont see the point of searching for something I will never be able to aspire to or afford and I certainly dont have my head buried in the sand.

Martin P

What is the most glaring omission in all the public waffle about leaving the crude oil in the ground (as that young lass from Sweden thinks she's eminently qualified to tell Governments to do), or in the more serious warnings about it running out?

Anyone spot it?

If you do are far more on the ball than most politicians, reporters and "green" (!) campaigners put together....

There's a clue in RMA's comment that politicians don't think things through.

What is MSM, google tells me it is a drug useful for Arthritis, must be doing something wrong, silly me.

Or even 'Men who have Sex with Men'...

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I think all the US Carriers are nuclear, and at least one features an electromagnetic catapult. Organic fuels including diesel can be made from cereal if need be. It's horribly expensive but that might not worry the military much.

The Queen Elizabeth's propellers are driven by electric motors, though not for green reasons - the electricity is diesel generated with gas turbine boosters.

Dave

Barrie, there is a lake in the USA that has millions of tons of of Lithium under the surface layer. It takes some extracting and is shipped all over the US to achieve this.

Everybody is hoping for some spectacular breakthrough for motive power, physics at the moment are not giving anything useful it seems.

My post was more of a query about how all this was to be achieved but what the hell at 82 my time on this planet is a bit limited and I am not splashing out anymore monies on pie in the sky expensive cars.

Most of what I posted was/is quite valid and I would like to see some answers.

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I answered your 'military' question, Clive ... and I was entirely serious.

MichaelG.

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Example: See para 36.1.3 on the first page of this chapter:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/488850/20160101-375_2016_P2_Vol1_Chapter_36_V1-0_Asbestos.pdf

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Hello Clive,

In Portugal there is also lithium.
See **HERE** please.

Regards
Dias Costa