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Hacksaw05/05/2017 23:39:06
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Ahh . 2 months on, the Lidlls Lithium drill is brilliant, very pleased.laugh

Its been abused a bit... and got white paint drips all over it ! Dropped it twice ..surprise

Noticed if you use too much pressure on a 10mm drill bit and almost stall it , blush it will cut out for a few seconds . I've driven a lot ( 2 whole boxes,only one charge ) of No. 12 x 3" screws on the low gear which didn't make it cut out though . I've run the battery right down ... and then a bit more ... several times , before recharging it . That doesn't seem to have bothered it. Battery capacity is impressive compared to my old nicad drills . I've charged it 10 - 15 times, doesn't heat up like a nicad . The motor magnets attracts swarf to the side of the casing ... see pic .The chuck doesn't grip drill bits as tight as other drills chucks i've had .. but i do lean on it somewhat !book 025.jpg

 

 

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EDIT !! Looking at the picture i took when it was new , the magnet is built into the case to secure the Pozi bit !! Not motor magnets !  Well that fell off and was lost before i ever used it.... Auto swarf pika uppa now ..

Edited By Hacksaw on 05/05/2017 23:45:09

not done it yet06/05/2017 04:37:58
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Presumably one cannot over-discharge the battery? That would likely be the reason for it cutting out at stall - over-current dragged the battery voltage down to the max discharge level (and the protection circuit told it to shut down!).

Neil Wyatt06/05/2017 12:16:50
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Posted by not done it yet on 06/05/2017 04:37:58:

Presumably one cannot over-discharge the battery? That would likely be the reason for it cutting out at stall - over-current dragged the battery voltage down to the max discharge level (and the protection circuit told it to shut down!).

More likely over-current protection. The lithium packs will also be protected against over-discharge.

Saw Fatmax drills with two 18v packs for £80 in Tradepoint - tempted. But then Makita for £100...

the artfull-codger06/05/2017 21:38:25
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I was in perth w a a few yrs ago & built a toylander land rover for the grandkids & used son in laws ozito drill [exclusive to bunnings superstore] ^ was so impressed that when I went last yr I bought their latest brushless drill & 2 lithium ion batteries,really good drills [perhaps not up to makita professional] but I've just put a new metal sheeting roof on our barn using it to screw them down & the battery lasted most of the day,I was well impressed, btw the sheds a 21mtsx 9mts & used 400 text screws, we put about 300 in before a recharge,bunnings have now taken over homebase in the uk & you can buy ozito stuff over here now,

Hopper06/05/2017 23:49:39
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 06/05/2017 12:16:50:
Posted by not done it yet on 06/05/2017 04:37:58:

Presumably one cannot over-discharge the battery? That would likely be the reason for it cutting out at stall - over-current dragged the battery voltage down to the max discharge level (and the protection circuit told it to shut down!).

More likely over-current protection. The lithium packs will also be protected against over-discharge.

Saw Fatmax drills with two 18v packs for £80 in Tradepoint - tempted. But then Makita for £100...

Makita ain't what it used to be.

not done it yet07/05/2017 08:08:38
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But then Makita for £100...

Makita ain't what it used to be.

Too true. I bought an expensive Makita screwdriver/drill and have regretted it. Turned out to be rubbish quality.

I expected it to last me out (my previous Bosch and Hitachi nicad batteries were no longer an economic proposition). I found its concentricity went awry after little use. Works well, but no accuracy. Clearly needs some decent bearings which will last a decent time. I only used it occasionally and it was rubbish by just over one year (yes - a one year manufacturer's warranty).

John Stevenson07/05/2017 08:54:29
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 06/05/2017 12:16:50:

Saw Fatmax drills with two 18v packs for £80 in Tradepoint - tempted. But then Makita for £100...

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Bought two drills and 4 battery's for about this price [ each ] some while ago 1 1/2+ years ? from Argos on offer to replace the varied selection of old Hitachi drills and flat batteries I had accumulated over the years.

Very pleased with them, they have done sterling work and still impressed with them.

They are just badge engineered model of the DeWalt at twice the price.

Neil Wyatt07/05/2017 09:49:54
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Posted by John Stevenson on 07/05/2017 08:54:29:

They are just badge engineered model of the DeWalt at twice the price.

If I could get a Badge-engineered DeWalt at half the price I would be pleased :-P

Neil

KWIL07/05/2017 10:28:10
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Ozito look curiously like the Einhell brand sold by othersindecision

Hacksaw03/01/2022 14:12:25
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Parkside Drill update , purchased May 2017 until January 2022 . Well, it just about holds a charge still after much abuse . Rubber bits peeled off , the casing hasn't broken or cracked . The Drill /Screwdriver selector switch did fail recently causing it to jump into neutral when drilling , along with a dreadful screech of mashing gears !! .A detent spring holding the selector in place , had just disappeared.. when i took it to bits to look . A new one was made which kind of worked .. Anyway for 29.99 it did ok !!

 

 

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I saw that Lidlls was selling drills again today .Gone up to £39.99 .This time they're up at 20v 2Ah..slightly larger ,a fair bit heavier .You get a set of screwdriver bits and a few drills ,which appear good quaility . ( As good as the 107 drill pack i bought last week ! ) The chuck is all metal now. Now the other good thing is the 20v battery is interchangeable with the Parkside Impact gun i have , that is 4Ah .It does make the drill somewhat heavier though . Pics

 

 

 

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Edited By Hacksaw on 03/01/2022 14:15:32

Clive Foster03/01/2022 14:29:07
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Battery interchangeability and likelihood of getting replacements when the originals die are the important drivers for me. Much as I respect the value for money aspect of Parkside (LidL) and similar affordable brands I figured Makita would be a better long term bet as being, apparently, committed to the LXT system. 18 volt in my case.

Looks to have been a decent bet as pattern replacement batteries can now be found quite easily at suitbly lower prices. I'm unlikely to induge but when pattern equipment can easily be found its a reasonable bet that the potential market is big so OEM is likely to find long term support worth it. Lithium batterries do seem to last longer. My oldset 2018 vintage ones are holding up well. As is teh drill and driver but I'm lighter than many on my tools.

Clive

Ady103/01/2022 14:45:52
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I got a decent Parkside PABSP 20 and yeh yeh it's fabby bla bla but its pretty darned big and its actually quite heavy

The best cordless I ever got was the Aldi Titanium brushless drill which was really light and compact so it could be used all day and squeezed into tighter spaces for joinery work stuff. Its main weakness was a rubbish electronic clutch so you had to be careful

I've found these drills to be very useful for avoiding drill breakage if you're hand drilling deeper holes in steel with smaller drills, just set the clutch to kick in so you can reverse it if it jams, also handy for reaming work

Edited By Ady1 on 03/01/2022 15:10:14

Hacksaw03/01/2022 14:47:59
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A new 16v parkside original battery for the old drill is 17 quid online . It still charges but it is dying . The drill is tired too though! I don't know anything about Li ion but it was at 3.5v dead flat an hour ago .I've charged it till the light went green (3/4 hour   and it's now at 16.2 v . And the old drill is working ok , but only for an hour or so ..

Lidls often have the newer "x " fit 20v batteries for cheap.  

 

I've many a time run it down to flat and then slippped in the charger for ten minutes to finish a job..and then not charged it fully for a while . is that a good way of ruining a Li ion battery ? It's been charged hundreds of times !

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Edited By Hacksaw on 03/01/2022 14:53:28

Ady103/01/2022 14:54:00
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As mentioned in another thread there's a nice box of 100+ hss drills for 15quid in Lidl at the moment

clogs03/01/2022 16:47:16
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as my Hitachi battery stuff dies I now buy Milwukee...expensive but prof qual....18v fuel.....

I just bought the 1/2 nut gun, already having the 3/8's model.....

Mine came from Germany at around 1/2 the UK price.....

so u can have the best for a good price if u shop around.....

Shame we cant buy their stuff at American prices....blxxxx government........

Bazyle03/01/2022 17:37:35
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Are the 18v and 20v batteries actually those voltages? It seems typical Lion batteries like the 18650 are 3.6v each so how do you get a 2v difference between packs? And 16v?
Simple maths ... 3.6, 7.2, 10.8, 14.4, 18.0, 21.6. So the 16v and 20v don't fit in the sequence. Of course the individual batteries have a range so is it a question of the marketing bending things a bit?

Hacksaw04/01/2022 00:10:46
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I opened the old 16 v battery earlier today . It has a printed circuit board , packed with i.c.'s inside . ..so i thought I'll just put that back together....I can't fix that .but I'm sure it had 4 cells.. I've used it a bit , it was 16v .

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And the new 20v one fully charged ............20v ..go figure !

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pgk pgk06/01/2022 07:17:10
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There’s an upcoming offer UK for a cordless compressor for just under £30.
https://www.lidl.co.uk/p/auto-shop/ultimate-speed-portable-cordless-compressor/p49064

Whether this may be useful for test or demo running engines remains to be seen but I shall be trialling it for the assorted bits of kit I have that slowly lose air and tend to be stored in shed away from a handy power point that ends up needing extension leads and dragging a bigger compressor along - including petrol wood chipper and genny. May be useful to get enough air into vehicle to make it safer to drive to the main compressor.

pgk

Adrian R206/01/2022 09:21:58
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Cordless compressor? Didn't that used to be called a foot pump? Anyway, let us know. I would guess it's only really designed for topping up tyres or emergency use for one flat so you would have to be careful with duty cycles, but the 2Ah of battery capacity might help regulate that.

Ady106/01/2022 10:07:29
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I got the gun version and it's been used about 500% more than I ever expected

unblocking drains(female deterius) slow punctures(female and male owned cars)airbed

These things always seem to happen at silly times like 8am on a sunday morning or when its raining and having an insta-go compressor makes things much easier

Must admit that when I got it I was very sceptical about its usefulness

Would buy a replacement one in a heartbeat now, I'm getting too old for getting mucked about

Stripped it down and lubed it a few months back to keep it reliable

Edited By Ady1 on 06/01/2022 10:17:18

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