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John Stevenson30/12/2012 11:18:49
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Posted by Donhe7 on 30/12/2012 11:14:46:

At no time does the OP express the desire to use the actual software itself, but wishes to recover the "intellectual" property, unfortunately concealed within the software, with the permission of the

estate of the creator of the projects

donhe7

Very good point Don?

That the user has "intellectual" rights and in the case of the software not working for different reasons what wil the software makes do so you can get your rights back?

Simple answer, expect you to pay more.

Michael Gilligan30/12/2012 11:57:19
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Posted by Donhe7 on 30/12/2012 11:14:46:
At no time does the OP express the desire to use the actual software itself, but wishes to recover the "intellectual" property, unfortunately concealed within the software, with the permission of the estate of the creator of the projects

donhe7

Edited By Donhe7 on 30/12/2012 11:18:09

Donhe7,

Whist I have every faith in DC's good intentions

I must point out that history has been re-written.

... Check the edit details.

MichaelG.

John Stevenson30/12/2012 12:24:33
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So you always say exactly what you mean first time round Michael ?

blowlamp30/12/2012 12:35:10
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Well the market eventually decides how things turn out, regardless of what may be written into any legislation or EULAs.

The very notion that rights are retained once a product is sold is wrong to my way of thinking and we're all disadvantaged because of it, so it's not a game I'm prepared to play. I think this is why so many 'artistes' are back on the road, as they can no long sit back whilst the royalties roll in - it's now largely a question of being paid per performance and rightly so.

The thought of doing a job once and retaining on-going control whilst being paid ad infinitum is certainly appealing to some, but if that's going to happen, shouldn't it apply to everyone that has something to sell?

 

Martin.

Edited By blowlamp on 30/12/2012 12:41:20

Michael Gilligan30/12/2012 14:22:54
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Posted by John Stevenson on 30/12/2012 12:24:33:

So you always say exactly what you mean first time round Michael ?

Probably not ...

And, as I said, I have every faith in DC's good intentions.

MichaelG.

David Clark 130/12/2012 14:29:28
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Hi There

I edited it because I did not want people to think I use pirated software.

I have long since stopped doing this.

And I have only ever done it to check if a program was worth buying and then many years ago.

regards David

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David Clark 130/12/2012 14:32:49
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Hi There

I do not need to purchase Alibre because I have a perfectly good and legal copy of Turbo Cad which will open almost everything I throw at it except Draft Choice for Windows DXF files.

regards David

John Stevenson30/12/2012 14:36:30
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Well I don't mind admitting that I still do the same, been bitten too many times in the past.

I must admit that I do get offered a lot of software, some genuine and some not so.

At one time I would have had a look at some of it but realised that if it was decent, could I afford the full version ? Usual answer was no so why waste any time looking at something you can't use.

All software has a learning curve so why waste time on it when it could be put to better use.

For this reason there are no copies of anything by Autodek, Solid Works etc on my machine bent or otherwise.

John S.

John Stevenson30/12/2012 14:39:57
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Posted by David Clark 1 on 30/12/2012 14:32:49:

Hi There

I do not need to purchase Alibre because I have a perfectly good and legal copy of Turbo Cad which will open almost everything I throw at it except Draft Choice for Windows DXF files.

regards David

Damn, That's how you are supposed to use it ?

I didn't throw anything at it, I threw it in the bin, the Morris Marina of the CAD world........

John S.

David Clark 130/12/2012 14:48:02
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Hi John

It does what I want. I still struggle a bit having used Autocad lite (a legal copy) for many years but that doe not like the latest versions of Windows.

regards David

SverreE30/12/2012 15:06:39
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Hello David;

I haven't read all answers above ....but I have a legal Alibre 2011 PE (Personal Edition). Maybe I can help you read your files?

Regards Sverre

Michael Gilligan30/12/2012 18:18:54
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Posted by David Clark 1 on 30/12/2012 14:29:28:

Hi There

I edited it because I did not want people to think I use pirated software.

regards David

Edited By David Clark 1 on 30/12/2012 14:30:58

David,

Noted; and unreservedly accepted.

Glad to see that it's all turned-out well.

MichaelG.

Gone Away30/12/2012 19:14:18
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Posted by Terryd on 29/12/2012 16:01:54:
I also believe that the licence is non transferrable - can you confirm that also. Of course this is not the case with free Open Source software.

What the EULA used to say in most cases was that the the licence (more often "license" ) could not be transferred without the express permission of the software supplier - not unreasonable since otherwise how would they keep up with who is the current licence holder?

And generally they would readily agree if asked. I sold a spare Autocad licence that way and similarly obtained a Photoshop licence. It's probably to the software vendor's benefit to have a licence transferred (with potential income from subsequent upgrades) rather than have it languish.

I haven't read a EULA in years (does anyone?) so I don't know what the actual wording is these days. In any event, if I had any licence to sell I'd certainly go back to the sofware source and ask.

I remember Microsoft's first product offering (8-bit BASIC for the Altair on punched-tape) which came with the agreement that the user simply licenced the software rather than owning it (and moreover wasn't allowed to modify it except in certain limited areas **). Such an agreement was standard in business applications but caused an initial furour among home users.

** It was necessary to modify input/output coding in those days to suit the way your particular machine was configured. You were also allowed to make a new punched-tape copy with your changes.

Michael Gilligan30/12/2012 19:31:23
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Sid,

The Alibre license is refreshingly clear; although I'm sure it will not be to everyone's taste.

... there is even a "plain English" summary at the top.

MichaelG.

KWIL30/12/2012 19:50:27
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Alibre license is, I agree, quite clear, especially to those who make a habit of reading such material.

Stub Mandrel30/12/2012 21:43:55
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The onl;y EULA worth reading is that for Spybot - essentially the author uses it to inform you that it is dedicated to his girlfriend

There is also the GFL - Gnu Free Licence.

Neil

JasonB01/01/2013 20:55:22
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Well I've cracked the code (legally) and have all of Malcoms drawings ready to e-mail back to David in the morning in DXF, DWG and PDF format.

Spent a while turning the V6 crankshaft over with my mouse watching all the parts that have been drawn movingteeth 2

I'll leave it to David to disclose or publish as he sees fit.

J

Ennech02/03/2013 15:38:28
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there are viwers for Solid Works and Autocad readily available. I could convert the Alibre versions to Solidworks with my copy of Alibre.

JasonB02/03/2013 16:49:21
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I've already converted them all for David.

J

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