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Keith Long10/02/2011 15:08:11
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Hi Ian

PM sent.

Keith

Ruaidhri Murphy21/02/2011 12:08:10
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Hi again,
 
Slight delay, which can be blamed on one Professor Gleeson and Coeliac Disease.
Flaming nuisance, and God I'd kill for a fresh loaf with black crunchy crust
 
Ian, - yes, I'd really appreciate as much info as possible - email still the same.
 
Haven't progressed at all, except for some tidying up on the countershaft.
 
More anon,
 
Regards,
Ruaidhrí
 

Edited By Ruaidhri Murphy on 21/02/2011 12:08:46

Steve Garnett26/02/2011 11:31:42
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My father told me a while ago that he'd bought a small lathe from a local tool shop, and  that it needed a bit of work doing to it. Eventually he reported that he'd got it all cleaned up and ready to go - and I'm afraid that I clean forgot about it for a while after that, and didn't go and look at it. This is perhaps slightly forgivable - he lives 90 miles away, after all. And then even when we went next time, I forgot again. Finally, last monday I got to have a look at it - and it's an EW. It's about the right size for him, because he builds and repairs clocks (when he's able - he's getting on a bit now).
 
His has a slightly weird chuck on it - like an oversized Unimat one, but nothing like any of the ones shown on the lathes site EW page. One thing that he complained about though was the toolpost, which looks original - he says that it's a right pain to set up, and that he would definitely have used the lathe more if this had been more convenient to use. So I said "why don't you get a quick-change toolpost for it?" "How much?" he says. So I looked on the Chronos website and told him that it was about £45 for the cheap starter set. "Blimey" he says. "That's more than I paid for the whole lathe!"
 
So then he confessed that he'd only paid £36 for it. I know that's not as good a deal as Ruaidhri got, but I reckon he's got himself a bit of a bargain. And this QCTP thing is annoying - I'll probably end up buying him the set for it...
 
When I go back, I'll try and take a few pix - I don't think he'll mind.

Edited By Steve Garnett on 26/02/2011 11:34:01

IanT27/02/2011 14:48:07
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It sounds like your Dads got a really good deal there Steve.
 
The small "economy" QCTH will fit the EW quite simply and does make life easier. I've got mine fitted with my 'brass' tooling (i.e. no top rake) but I still use the original toolholder set-up for my 'Diamond' and other tooling better suited to steel.
 
I suspect the chuck that came with the lathe is a "scroll" type - there will be a knurled outside and no chuck key as such? Rather like a large self-locking drill chuck? They are usually of very good quality (I've never seen a cheap imported one) and if it has not been abused then should still give very good service.
 
Anyway - I'm sure your Dad will enjoy his new lathe - the EW is an ideal size for clock-making, being large enough for most (if not all) work in this area.
 
I've just been re-reading the John Wilding 'beginner' articles from ME (about 1980'ish?) and although I don't make clocks - his advice has been very useful with my own work. I will admit that I had thought clockmakers used tiny lathes ('turns') but JW says not, only for pivots etc - he actually seems to use a Myford Super7 but I'm sure he would approve of the EW for this work too!
 
Please give your Dad our best wishes.
 
Ian T
Steve Garnett27/02/2011 16:02:18
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Thanks for the comments, Ian.
 
Posted by IanT on 27/02/2011 14:48:07:
 
The small "economy" QCTH will fit the EW quite simply and does make life easier. I've got mine fitted with my 'brass' tooling (i.e. no top rake) but I still use the original toolholder set-up for my 'Diamond' and other tooling better suited to steel.
 

I'm glad it goes on easily - because I reckon that I'll end up installing it, and with relatively limited resources on site.
 
 
I suspect the chuck that came with the lathe is a "scroll" type - there will be a knurled outside and no chuck key as such? Rather like a large self-locking drill chuck? They are usually of very good quality (I've never seen a cheap imported one) and if it has not been abused then should still give very good service.
 

That sounds about right - it's a very 'silver' looking thing, and I'm sure it doesn't have a chuck key at all. He's of the opinion that it's pretty accurate. The shame is that this appears to be the only headstock option he's got - no faceplate, no 4-jaw independent, or anything like that, and I suspect that he'd be up for trying a few more things with it if he had a few more options here.
Ruaidhri Murphy07/03/2011 00:50:42
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Some good news today - my friend rang to say he has finally found the original motor (buried in his workshop!) with switch, and the original chuck. Also found the motor bracket, so that should be a complete job
 
With the super amount of info from Ian (thanks again) it looks like I'll be a busy bunny for some time to come
 
I hope to collect during the week & will post pics if anyone is interested.
 
Cheers,
Ruaidhrí
NJH07/03/2011 09:50:39
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Tony
 
I've sent you a personal message - please check your Messages in box.
 
Regards
 
Norman
Steve Garnett09/04/2012 12:51:39
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Posted by me on 26/02/2011 11:31:42:

When I go back, I'll try and take a few pix - I don't think he'll mind.

I took a couple with my mobile phone, and then clean forgot to do anything with them! But seeing the thread pop up again I remembered, so here they are:

Stringer EW

Overall view of it as it currently stands. Where did that chuck actually come from? I'm absolutely sure it's not original.

Stringer EW layshaft

'Interesting' layshaft arrangement... also not original, I'd guess.

He doesn't appear to have anything much else for it other than what you can see - so no threadcutting or anything like that, and no means of self-act either. Nice as far as it goes, but really needs some work doing to it, I'd say.

IanT08/07/2012 10:29:55
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Hi Alan (and other "EW Stalwarts",

Thanks very much for this info - a few very useful nuggets there - and nice to have anyway.

I do aplogise for my inaction - but we've had a few things going on that have somewhat limited my 'EW' time recently. However, I will have a look at the Martin Cleeve list included in your postings and see what I've got in my ME collection. If I have them, I will get them scanned and off to everyone on the EW mailing list that I've sent MC material to so far.

Regards to you and the other EWS!

IanT

IanT09/07/2012 00:06:22
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I've sent the first new scans out this evening but if I've missed any EW owner who has contacted me previously (Keith?) - please PM me.

Regards

Ian T

Ruaidhri Murphy13/07/2012 15:18:13
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Thanks guys!

Things in Dublin a little fraught for some time, so not much progress.

Quick "by the way" - I tried out rust removal on some waste, then the change wheels. Worked a treat. Found it on YouTube. Some Aussie bloke wot restores cars: uses 9 parts water with 1 part molasses, and soaks for a week or so, then a light scrub. I was astonished - it sounded more like somthing from the Goon Show

Mate found the final missing jaw for "The Burnerd" 3 jaw which came with it, so I'm a happy bunny again.

Regards,

Ruaidhrí

IanT20/07/2012 08:17:19
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Thanks for the photos Alan, I've not seen a gap-bed version of the EW before.

However, I'm sure your lathe can be brought back to good order and hope you will post some 'before and after' pictures for us. Also look forard to seeing your clutch mods eventually.

Regards,

Ian T

maurice bennie20/07/2012 18:31:51
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hi all, in teresting reading all your efforts to fix your lathes .I made ,long ago, a clutch from the front hub of an old autocycle, Icant now remember exactly how but the back plate was clamped to the pulley and the lever which opperated the shoes was pushed on by a cone which slide along a shaft ,this was opperated by a hand lever. Sorry I can not rember more but it must have been in the late forties or early fifties .I know it worked very well ,perhaps I hope I have sown a seed of an idea for you all to have a go at. .

Best wishes Maurice .

Ian S C21/07/2012 09:36:09
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The electric clutch from a car AC unit would go well on the counter shaft of a lathe, it should be well up to a lathe up to (maybe beyond) 1hp. You would need a low voltage supply, 12V, ie., a battery charger, this could also supply power for a low voltage light. Ian S C

IanT21/08/2012 08:56:52
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I'll look into this Alan.

By the way - by an odd coincidence - I was looking yesterday through some ME back issues at the build instructions for a Gauge '3' Flying Scotsman that I am working on (albeit very, very slowly) and realised that these issues also had some more Martin Cleeve articles on building a new slotted cross-slide for the EW. There is an interesting method of making the V-ways. So I was already going to distribute these to you all.

I have an EW Boring table and I am thinking of making this my main cross-slide (making a very simple new mount for the topslide that would slide off quickly). I am currently working on a small powered verticle milling spindle to clamp to the back of the EW lathe in place of the tailstock. The same mounting will also quickly adapt to go on my old Super 7 (bed or crosslide) too for any slightly larger jobs.

Anyway - I will see what I have on Exactus over the next day or two and get back to you all.

Regards,

IanT

PS Is it time to start a new Stringer EW Lathe '2' thread?

Ian S C21/08/2012 12:05:26
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Alan, the articals are in 2968, 2969, 2970, and 2972. It looks like Exactus's works could actually be worth being republished, maybe in ME, or as a separate book(perhaps it was). Ian S C
IanT21/08/2012 13:37:07
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Thank you for the ME references Ian SC - that will make life easier when I come to check my collection.

Alan, I think there will be issues of copyright if I post them in public - it's a bit different from sending copies privately to one or two friends. I'll get them out to you and the usual suspects of course (e.g. the other EW Owners) if I have them.

Regards,

Ian T

Ian S C21/08/2012 14:29:34
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Sorry no copies here. Regarding copywrite David C may help here as to the state of (c).
Ian S C
David Clark 121/08/2012 15:15:33
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Hi There

I have uploaded copies of the magazines as PDFs.

2968

2969

2970

2972

Sorry about the quality but I did not scan them.

Copyright - As far as I know, Exactus was Edgar Westbury so we own the copyright.

regards David

Edited By David Clark 1 on 21/08/2012 22:17:51

Michael Gilligan21/08/2012 15:45:33
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Thanks, David ... you are a star !

I must confess that I don't have an EW lathe; but have admired them ever since I first saw these articles. ... If I recall correctly, there are some good "re-useable" ideas in the Exactus series.

MichaelG.

Edited By David Clark 1 on 21/08/2012 22:18:10

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