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Any advice on how to cut/file a 45 degree chamfer on a 1mm steel sheet to EXACTLY 45 degrees?

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Emgee24/03/2021 13:38:27
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Posted by J Hancock on 24/03/2021 11:25:46:

I'm with Andy Stopford's method.

I will second that, simple to make and set-up and will also give repeatable accuracy.

Emgee

William Chitham24/03/2021 17:26:06
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I've seen 3 chamfering devices recently on Instagram and Youtube by Oxtools, Robin Renzetti and Stefan Gotteswinter. They are all based on the same basic idea, a V block with a milling cutter projecting into the bottom of the V. All handheld, all look capable of consistent, accurate results.

Oxtools , Renzetti, Gotteswinter 1,

Also a different approach:

Gotteswinter 2

W.

JasonB24/03/2021 18:14:49
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Not sure how well any of those would work on the OP's "knifeedge" and they are also small parts which will take your fingers close to the cutter, may be OK for knocking off corners on larger items where the "V" supports two edges of the work.

Nick Wheeler24/03/2021 18:17:52
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Another thing to consider is that running abrasive grinding points along lengths of 1mm thick steel is going to wear grooves in them very quickly.

Neil Wyatt24/03/2021 19:29:51
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I've got to cut some dado rail to 'exactly' 45 degrees in the next few days.

Far trickier if you ask me...

Neil

Neil Wyatt24/03/2021 19:31:58
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I would make a jig (wooden perhaps) and use a bench grinder.

Perhaps grind chamfered end first, then grind other end to exact length.

JasonB24/03/2021 19:32:48
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You've got your priorities wrong Neil, should be workshop first then DIY.

J

PS Painter's mate is your friend

PPS Luck your house has all the walls at Exactly 90deg

peak424/03/2021 19:37:08
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 24/03/2021 19:29:51:

I've got to cut some dado rail to 'exactly' 45 degrees in the next few days.

Far trickier if you ask me...

Neil

Internal or external corner.
For the internal, cut one piece to 45°; saw along the witness line of the profile to 90° with a fine coping saw.
Works well for full depth complicated skirting boards too.

Butt joint to a plain length already fitted into the corner.

Bill

Jeff Dayman24/03/2021 20:18:59
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"PPS Luck your house has all the walls at Exactly 90deg"

As if that has ever happened! (I'd settle for 'somewhat planar' in our house) smiley

Ian P24/03/2021 20:44:27
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Posted by Jeff Dayman on 24/03/2021 20:18:59:

"PPS Luck your house has all the walls at Exactly 90deg"

As if that has ever happened! (I'd settle for 'somewhat planar' in our house) smiley

In the spirit of the OP's expectations of 'EXACTLY' I would say that most houses are walls at exactly 90 degrees.

In our home I could put a square table in the corner of a room and it might fit perfectly but I dont know for certain that the table is accurately made.

Personally I dont have a high opinion of British housebuilders but I accept fitness for purpose serves here.

Ian P

Hopper25/03/2021 01:19:55
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 24/03/2021 19:29:51:

I've got to cut some dado rail to 'exactly' 45 degrees in the next few days.

Far trickier if you ask me...

Neil

That's what mitre boxes are for. You can buy plastic ones for a few quid these days. Guides the saw at exactly 45 deg and perfecty square. (By woodworkers standards, which if my mate the builder is anything to go by, are not quite up to Michael Gilligan's typical parameters.)

Which maybe could be used for the OP's problem too. Glue some emery paper to the side of the saw blade and hold the job in position on the side of the mitre box while chamfering the edge.

Ian P25/03/2021 12:31:46
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Posted by John Smith 47 on 23/03/2021 13:41:47:

Thanks for all your quick responses
[Note I have now added a PS to my post of 12:36 today]

Regarding accuracy of the 45 chamfer, I need to make a bit load of them at least 32 of them and they ALL need to be able to meet and create a 90° join.

The reason for the accuracy is thatt they are for magnetic guides and even a 0.1mm gap will cause a significant drop in magnetic pull.

I'm not sure what 'magnetic guides' are but if you want the magnetic force to hold these parts together at right angles and you are concerned about a 0.1mm potential gap you might need to use guage plate or have the steel parts hardened.

Since these items have more or less a cutting edge (like a plane blade) they will be very subseptible to damage or burrs so even if it was a perfect 45 degree bevel it might not remain so for very long.

Since you mentioned this was an idea for a 'product' it might be sensible to have a batch made by an engineering company or an individual rather than buying machinery and learning how to use it. As others have said the most appropriate DIY method is that suggested earlier by Andy Stopford .

Are you hoping that the magnetic force will hold two parts together at a right angle just by the contact along the bevelled edge?

Ian P

Frances IoM25/03/2021 12:49:32
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mitre 45deg joins in skirting boards soon separate - the best approach for internal corners is a butt joint but into a shoulder cut in one of the boards.
I suspect the same approach can be used for dado rails
JasonB25/03/2021 13:11:43
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Scribe internal corners on any mouldings and mitre external, As Peak4 said precutting a "mitre" and then using the edge as your scribing line is the way to do it.

Dare not tell Neil that Dado rails is about as popular as the similar named bird these days can't remember that last time I fitted any for a client even in period properties.

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