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ega05/01/2022 14:42:33
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Posted by Sam Longley 1 on 05/01/2022 13:27:59:

A little off track, but still on the question of highway codes of sorts. Can anyone direct me to a site where one can get all the highway rules for cyclists in Belgium, France & Holland....

Have you tried cycling.uk?

They would certainly be able to supply this information.

Jonathon Bywater05/01/2022 14:42:46
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Ye gods. After 20 years of driving through Cambridge to work and now wont go back there. The nutters have free reign everywhere.

Harry Wilkes05/01/2022 14:54:34
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Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 05/01/2022 09:44:46:

Hmmm, New Year's resolution: must buy an up-to-date Highway Code and read it! Do I still need a man with a red flag?

angel 2

Dave

Only with a traction engine wink

Sam Longley 105/01/2022 15:22:12
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Posted by Harry Wilkes on 05/01/2022 14:54:34:
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 05/01/2022 09:44:46:

Hmmm, New Year's resolution: must buy an up-to-date Highway Code and read it! Do I still need a man with a red flag?

angel 2

Dave

Only with a traction engine wink

How else would he travel?

HOWARDT05/01/2022 15:48:48
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Sam, it may soon be possible to use the footpath for its intended purpose as they make it an offence at a local level to park a vehicle on them. Of course that is if the cyclists allow you to use this newly freed space.

Vic05/01/2022 16:01:43
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I cycle very occasionally but I’m not happy to do so on the road, far too dangerous. There are many cycle paths near me but some cyclists still insist on using the road next to it instead! I think it should be an offence to use the road if a cycle path a few feet away is available! laugh

Nick Wheeler05/01/2022 16:08:25
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Posted by Vic on 05/01/2022 16:01:43:

I cycle very occasionally but I’m not happy to do so on the road, far too dangerous. There are many cycle paths near me but some cyclists still insist on using the road next to it instead! I think it should be an offence to use the road if a cycle path a few feet away is available! laugh

I'm one of those cyclists! There are many cycle paths around the Medway Towns that I won't use because they are more dangerous than the roads. That's mostly due to terrible design, but some of them are really badly maintained too. Vehicles, and bicycles are vehicles, should be on the road.

The real problem is that many road users are incompetent and/or temperamentally unsuited to the job.

RMA05/01/2022 17:05:43
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Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 05/01/2022 09:44:46:

Hmmm, New Year's resolution: must buy an up-to-date Highway Code and read it! Do I still need a man with a red flag?

angel 2

Dave

Tut Tut. 21st century........a woman can carry the flag now!laugh

Bo'sun05/01/2022 18:04:23
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Posted by Nicholas Wheeler 1 on 05/01/2022 16:08:25:
Posted by Vic on 05/01/2022 16:01:43:

I cycle very occasionally but I’m not happy to do so on the road, far too dangerous. There are many cycle paths near me but some cyclists still insist on using the road next to it instead! I think it should be an offence to use the road if a cycle path a few feet away is available! laugh

I'm one of those cyclists! There are many cycle paths around the Medway Towns that I won't use because they are more dangerous than the roads. That's mostly due to terrible design, but some of them are really badly maintained too. Vehicles, and bicycles are vehicles, should be on the road.

The real problem is that many road users are incompetent and/or temperamentally unsuited to the job.

Bazyle05/01/2022 18:08:48
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Don't even think about hitting a camel in the middle east...... teeth

Bo'sun05/01/2022 18:12:56
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Posted by Bo'sun on 05/01/2022 18:04:23:
Posted by Nicholas Wheeler 1 on 05/01/2022 16:08:25:
Posted by Vic on 05/01/2022 16:01:43:

I cycle very occasionally but I’m not happy to do so on the road, far too dangerous. There are many cycle paths near me but some cyclists still insist on using the road next to it instead! I think it should be an offence to use the road if a cycle path a few feet away is available! laugh

I'm one of those cyclists! There are many cycle paths around the Medway Towns that I won't use because they are more dangerous than the roads. That's mostly due to terrible design, but some of them are really badly maintained too. Vehicles, and bicycles are vehicles, should be on the road.

The real problem is that many road users are incompetent and/or temperamentally unsuited to the job.

Yes, I agree, cycle paths for the most part, are in an appalling state. Badly surfaced, badly signposted, overhanging vegetation, not joined up, etc. Still, how else could the local highways authority afford to refurbish their offices. I wouldn't mind betting that if a highways officer were using said cycleways, they'd pretty soon get sorted!

Grizzly bear05/01/2022 18:37:12
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What about spiral roundabouts?

No signs to indicate that a roundabout has been 'upgraded' to spiral.

Microsoft PowerPoint - Spiral Roundabouts - adiH credits (adihelp.co.uk)

Bear....

Sam Longley 105/01/2022 19:07:10
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Posted by HOWARDT on 05/01/2022 15:48:48:

Sam, it may soon be possible to use the footpath for its intended purpose as they make it an offence at a local level to park a vehicle on them. Of course that is if the cyclists allow you to use this newly freed space.

Not freed up for E-scooters then???

Dave Halford05/01/2022 19:45:22
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Posted by Sam Longley 1 on 05/01/2022 19:07:10:
Posted by HOWARDT on 05/01/2022 15:48:48:

Sam, it may soon be possible to use the footpath for its intended purpose as they make it an offence at a local level to park a vehicle on them. Of course that is if the cyclists allow you to use this newly freed space.

Not freed up for E-scooters then???

No need to, they use them anyway.

Vic05/01/2022 20:07:23
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Posted by Bo'sun on 05/01/2022 18:04:23:
Posted by Nicholas Wheeler 1 on 05/01/2022 16:08:25:
Posted by Vic on 05/01/2022 16:01:43:

I cycle very occasionally but I’m not happy to do so on the road, far too dangerous. There are many cycle paths near me but some cyclists still insist on using the road next to it instead! I think it should be an offence to use the road if a cycle path a few feet away is available! laugh

I'm one of those cyclists! There are many cycle paths around the Medway Towns that I won't use because they are more dangerous than the roads. That's mostly due to terrible design, but some of them are really badly maintained too. Vehicles, and bicycles are vehicles, should be on the road.

The real problem is that many road users are incompetent and/or temperamentally unsuited to the job.

The ones near me that I have in mind are if anything better than the road so your argument is void. I’m sorry the ones in your area are so bad. Maybe you should contact the council?

Sam Longley 105/01/2022 20:24:26
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Posted by Vic on 05/01/2022 20:07:23:
Posted by Bo'sun on 05/01/2022 18:04:23:
Posted by Nicholas Wheeler 1 on 05/01/2022 16:08:25:
Posted by Vic on 05/01/2022 16:01:43:

I cycle very occasionally but I’m not happy to do so on the road, far too dangerous. There are many cycle paths near me but some cyclists still insist on using the road next to it instead! I think it should be an offence to use the road if a cycle path a few feet away is available! laugh

I'm one of those cyclists! There are many cycle paths around the Medway Towns that I won't use because they are more dangerous than the roads. That's mostly due to terrible design, but some of them are really badly maintained too. Vehicles, and bicycles are vehicles, should be on the road.

The real problem is that many road users are incompetent and/or temperamentally unsuited to the job.

The ones near me that I have in mind are if anything better than the road so your argument is void. I’m sorry the ones in your area are so bad. Maybe you should contact the council?

I agree with the earlier poster. His arguement is far from void. Even in towns some cycle ways are lacking in maintenance & that can be seen on a number of you tube videos. My experience bears that out. i have 2 Bromptons & the 16 inch wheels emphasise that.

Sam Longley 105/01/2022 20:26:27
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Posted by Grizzly bear on 05/01/2022 18:37:12:

What about spiral roundabouts?

No signs to indicate that a roundabout has been 'upgraded' to spiral.

Bear....

I would not expect a sign. It is generally how I have treated a roundabout all the time.

old mart05/01/2022 20:43:08
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How many people know that you must give way to a bus when the driver switches their right hand indicator on at a bus stop.

Frances IoM05/01/2022 20:55:36
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if you want to see when a roundabout is not a roundabout look at the Manx Roundel
https://www.manxforums.com/forums/index.php?/topic/64379-promenade-megathread/page/546/

go down to Roundel review - apparently some in the Dept of Infrastructure like doodling - they also invented road crossing that looked special but were not official - removed when one cyclist died crossing one without checking for traffic
Sam Longley 105/01/2022 20:58:31
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Posted by old mart on 05/01/2022 20:43:08:

How many people know that you must give way to a bus when the driver switches their right hand indicator on at a bus stop.

MUST ??? or "should"

Cannot say I have read the intro to the highway code for decades but

Just out of interest - is a CODE law, or a code of practice, which could be deemed something slightly different.

Obviously not acting in accordance with a recommended code could put one at a dissadvantage,

But unlawful in its self ??

 

An example- If one did not follow the procedure for a spiral roundabout would one be breaking a law? If one had an accident as a result then one would be at a disadvantage by having not followed the "code"

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 05/01/2022 21:00:32

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