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Neil Wyatt09/02/2015 19:02:33
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Plimsoll lines.

Marked off with things like 'winter north Atlantic' to account for temperature and seasonality. Others are summer, tropical, fresh and tropical fresh (I think).

Neil

Plimsoll Line

Michael Gilligan09/02/2015 20:13:50
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 09/02/2015 19:02:33:

Plimsoll lines.

Marked off with things like 'winter north Atlantic' to account for temperature and seasonality. Others are summer, tropical, fresh and tropical fresh (I think).

Neil

Plimsoll Line

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Mmm ... ?

Given that the original Plimsoll Line was One Inch ... I wonder what difference the reduction to 25mm made to the load-capacity of the World's shipping. devil cheeky

MichaelG.

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P.S. ... don't remind me about centre-lines ... those interested in profit will always work tolerances to their favour.

Diane Carney09/02/2015 21:25:40
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 09/02/2015 15:52:09:

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Centriufugal force - a force referred to by second rate mathematicians and third rate physicists. There is no such thing. One can only have a lack of centripetal force.

Diane

Edited By Diane Carney on 09/02/2015 21:26:16

Mark C09/02/2015 23:03:32
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Depends on your point of view!

Mark

ps. Or terms of reference

Diane Carney09/02/2015 23:55:38
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Indeed.
And whether you have ever been a rider on the Wall of Death! Try telling them there's no such thing a centrifugal force! wink

Edited By Diane Carney on 09/02/2015 23:56:09

FMES10/02/2015 06:14:43
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Posted by Diane Carney on 09/02/2015 23:55:38:

Indeed.
And whether you have ever been a rider on the Wall of Death! Try telling them there's no such thing a centrifugal force! wink

Edited By Diane Carney on 09/02/2015 23:56:09

Always thought it was Centripetal reaction.

Ian S C10/02/2015 10:02:17
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The North Atlantic summer/winter Plimsoll Line would be to take into account the ice melt in summer when the sea becomes less saline.

Ian S C

Ed Duffner10/02/2015 10:16:54
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If it's related to the tidal forces then it would depend where the moon is when the ships set off. If both ships set off when the moon is fully around the other side of the earth then there would be no difference in tides affecting either vessel. The text kind of contradicts itself by stating "all things equal" but there is then an assumption of tidal difference.

It could be argued that if the moon is east of the Azores it is pulling on the earth's crust and causes a tide to travel eastward. As the moon passes over head of the two vessels from east to west, the pull of the moon then starts to pull westward and influences the motion of the westward bound vessel because of a tide now travelling in a westward direction. smiley

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Neil Wyatt10/02/2015 12:17:56
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No tidal differences ED, its all just down to the earth's rotation.

Also, the tides bulge both on the side opposite the moon and the far side*, that's why we have them twice a day!**

Neil

*I should know, having grown up in Barry with a tidal range of 49 feet.

**Unless you live on the Solent.

Bob Brown 110/02/2015 13:14:51
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Still twice a day on the Solent, it is more a longer duration of high tide and a shorter ebb tide period or as least that is how I see it.

Bob

Neil Wyatt10/02/2015 14:27:36
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Apparently it depends exactly where you are with double high tides at Calshot.

www.solentpedia.info/our_coastal_zone/waves_and_tides/

Neil

Bob Brown 110/02/2015 16:07:22
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other side of the water

Neil Wyatt10/02/2015 20:57:45
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To be honest, with only ten foot of tide I'm surprised you can tell the difference!

Neil

Mark C10/02/2015 21:01:54
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Yep, not like us lads with a "proper" tide like we have up here on the Mersey and Dee

Mark

Neil Wyatt10/02/2015 21:05:46
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All of 2/3 of what we have in Barry

When I were a lad I used to sit on the dock of the bay and watch the tide roll away.

Neil

Mark C10/02/2015 21:14:23
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When I were a lad, I used to stay well away from the edge 'cos it used to feel like it was pulling me in! And in those days it was reckoned you would die of poisoning before you drowned - not a problem for you lads that grew up eating bread made from sea weed....

Mark

Chris Pattison 127/02/2015 00:54:44
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The one that has not had its bottom scraped. Barnacles giving a major amount of friction. The cross-sectional area and hull length will also influence the speed. And of course the current flow, such as the Gulf Stream. Too many variables in my opinion.

Ian S C27/02/2015 07:45:44
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I think the one travelling east would have a problem with the coast, it's only 907ml to Lisbon. It's about 2300ml to America.

Ian S C

Neil Wyatt27/02/2015 09:17:28
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> Too many variables in my opinion.

Hence 'all things being equal' - I don't expect anyone to go out with a spring balance and check the results!

Neil

Gordon W27/02/2015 09:46:55
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This is starting to sound like the parting off theories. And don't forget quantum effects.

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