colin hamilton | 16/02/2022 20:26:05 |
186 forum posts 94 photos | So the 40 is the tpi but what is the 5? And where I the UK can I buy a small quantity that dint charge a fortune for shipping? Thanks Colin |
JasonB | 16/02/2022 20:29:04 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | It's a UNC thread and below 1/4" they use numbers rather than diameter much like wood screws What sort of head are you after? Edited By JasonB on 16/02/2022 20:30:12 |
Former Member | 16/02/2022 20:32:37 |
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Mick Dobson | 16/02/2022 20:34:54 |
41 forum posts 27 photos | It has diameter 0.125". Often used in US designs. |
colin hamilton | 17/02/2022 12:48:05 |
186 forum posts 94 photos | Thanks everyone. So below 1/4" they change from and actual dimension to just a number very helpful!! The head type doesn't matter. I'm about to strip the head of my bridgeport mill. There is part of the quill mechanism which is pulled out after you screw a 5-40 machine screw into it. |
Michael Gilligan | 17/02/2022 13:33:19 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by colin hamilton on 17/02/2022 12:48:05:
[…] So below 1/4" they change from and actual dimension to just a number very helpful!! . Presumably sarcasm … but why the need ? MichaelG. |
Robert Butler | 17/02/2022 13:46:39 |
511 forum posts 6 photos | Michael Not sure it was "sarcasm" or just helpful to know. Robert Butler |
colin hamilton | 17/02/2022 14:01:59 |
186 forum posts 94 photos | Sarcasm? A bit. Just strikes me as a bit odd they would change the convention. Why not stick with a single system of categorisation?
And what us wrong with a bit of sarcasm. |
Andrew Johnston | 17/02/2022 14:14:12 |
![]() 7061 forum posts 719 photos | Posted by colin hamilton on 17/02/2022 14:01:59:
....what us wrong with a bit of sarcasm. It can rebound when the originator is wrong. For unified threads below 1/4" the number is related to OD, for numbers from 0 to 12: OD = thread_number x 0.013 + 0.06 Andrew |
Clive Foster | 17/02/2022 15:35:48 |
3630 forum posts 128 photos | I guess switching to numbers avoids silly complicated fractions on smaller sizes. Same reason for BA being numbered I guess. Naming and identification systems need to be clear and not easily mis-understood. Not slaves to theoretical rules. Metric way is nicely tied to rules but in practice it can be less than clear. Decimal points are easily missed or mis-read. Simple M for standard metric coarse then M diameter ... x ... pitch for fine or constant pitch switches horses in a bad, confusing way. Should have followed the old American convention of NC, NF, NS diameter ... x ... tpi so MC diameter for standard coarse, MF for standard fine and MS diameter ... x ... pitch for anything non standard such as the various permitted constant pitch sizes. Much clearer and its obvious when you have a weird one to deal with. Clive |
John Purdy | 17/02/2022 17:35:00 |
![]() 431 forum posts 252 photos | Colin The UNC/UNF series of machine screws run from 0 to 14. #0 is defined as .060" major dia. and each number up increases in major dia. by .013", so #1 is .073", #2 is .086" etc., hence #5 is .125" as said above. Preferred sizes are 0. thru 6, 8, 10, and 12. There is also a series that runs down in size following the same .013" rule to #0000. Can't help with where to get them over there as I live on the other side of the pond. I make my own hex headed ones. John Edited By John Purdy on 17/02/2022 17:36:53 |
Tony Pratt 1 | 17/02/2022 17:47:50 |
2319 forum posts 13 photos | Several UK suppliers come up on Google, I don't know your exact requirements. Tony |
JasonB | 17/02/2022 18:17:13 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | For small amounts try Model fixings, they have Phillips pan heads or Allen head in #5-40 |
Mick Dobson | 17/02/2022 18:35:10 |
41 forum posts 27 photos | Colin, if you have trouble sourcing the 5-40 fasteners, there is also the 1/8" x 40 TPI ME (Model Engineer) thread, if this could be incorporated in your application. The ME threads use 55 degrees thread angle rather than the 60 degrees in the case of UNC. |
noel shelley | 17/02/2022 19:31:39 |
2308 forum posts 33 photos | 1/8" whitworth is 40 tpi but 55* though it may fit at this size. Good luck. Noel. |
Former Member | 17/02/2022 19:34:28 |
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JasonB | 17/02/2022 19:47:16 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | It was but I did not want to send the OP there if he had specific head requirements so asked what was needed first. |
Former Member | 17/02/2022 19:48:33 |
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colin hamilton | 18/02/2022 07:15:39 |
186 forum posts 94 photos | Thanks everyone. Naming convention properly understood and fasteners ordered from Model Fixings. Cheers Colin |
Joe McKean | 18/02/2022 07:30:15 |
60 forum posts 3 photos | Always worthwhile having a look at Accu |
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