By continuing to use this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more
Forum sponsored by:
Forum sponsored by Forum House Ad Zone

problem with pillar drill

All Topics | Latest Posts

Search for:  in Thread Title in  
Terry Blush24/08/2014 16:58:13
7 forum posts
Evening all I'm new to this site as I have a problem.
 
Does anyone have a drill press and know the ins and outs with them?
 
I have a wee B&Q powerbase one and lately when I have it running its been vibtating badly. I have worked out that this is due tothe front pulleys that turn the chuck, is liftingon the square drive shaft. I push it back down with some force and all is well for a few minutes then it lifts again.
 
There is a set screw to hold the pulley to the inner sleeve that sits on the square drive shaft but I don't see any screw to bite the drive shaft..
Any ideas?
 
Many thanks in advance.
Gordon W24/08/2014 17:27:05
2011 forum posts

I've just been looking at my similar m/c, don't really know what you mean. The square shaft has to slide up and down as the chuck is lowered, is it stuck ? Would suggest taking off the pulley block and see whats going on , maybe just needs clean and oil ? Maybe a bearing come loose, will prob. be able to loctite back in if so, but just guessing. Thought- the belt is on the same grooves ? Let us know.

Terry Blush24/08/2014 17:52:47
7 forum posts

 

 

Edited By Terry Blush on 24/08/2014 18:09:02

Terry Blush24/08/2014 18:10:56
7 forum posts

I understand the square rod drives the chuck is meant to slide up and down inside the pulley now, but why would the front pulley lift up? It lifts a good 40mm or so while the machine is running

John Bromley24/08/2014 19:53:23
84 forum posts

The pulley should be held in place by a grub screw, I have a Clarke version of the same drill.

From memory it is in one of the pulley grooves. Tighten it up and all should be well.

John

Steven Vine24/08/2014 20:04:45
340 forum posts
30 photos

Yeah, what John said. Its a 3mm hex head, in the 2nd groove down on mine.

Steve

Terry Blush24/08/2014 20:49:40
7 forum posts

Yep the grub screw is there and tight to the inner sleeve which is lined up to the flat spot. However that inner sleeve is what is sliding up

Terry Blush24/08/2014 20:50:50
7 forum posts

Steven Vine24/08/2014 21:16:52
340 forum posts
30 photos

Crikey. That short shaft should not come out of the bearing.

Here is a picture of the assembly from underneath (the quill assembly has been removed). This picture is a shot of the underside of the top bearing.

quillsupport-2.jpg

The shaft may need to be modified and then pressed in again so it it a tight fit. It has to transfer a lot of torque. Some of the more knowledgeable chaps will provide solutions.

Steve

Michael Horner24/08/2014 21:20:37
229 forum posts
63 photos

Hi Terry

Afraid I can't help with direct experience but I found a manual on the Grizzly Tools website which may give you some ideas **LINK** . On page 28 of the document 34 in the Adobe reader shows an exploded diagram. It seems to show some internal and external retaining clips.

Best of luck. Michael.

Michael Horner24/08/2014 21:44:25
229 forum posts
63 photos
Posted by Steven Vine on 24/08/2014 21:16:52:

Crikey. That short shaft should not come out of the bearing.

Here is a picture of the assembly from underneath (the quill assembly has been removed). This picture is a shot of the underside of the top bearing.

quillsupport-2.jpg

The shaft may need to be modified and then pressed in again so it it a tight fit. It has to transfer a lot of torque. Some of the more knowledgeable chaps will provide solutions.

Steve

Hi Steve

Just guessing but I think the grub screw in the pulley transmit the torque into square tube then into the spindle. I think the pulley should be a press fit in the bearings, a bit of low strength loctite should hold it in place. Can't find the fingers crossed icon.

Cheers Michael.

Steven Vine24/08/2014 22:08:59
340 forum posts
30 photos

Thanks Michael. That makes more sense than the conclusion I came to. It's worth trying the simple loctite solution first. I just had a walk round to the shops, and was thinking, there and back, about how easy it would be to make another shaft so that it was a tighter fit.

Steve

Terry Blush24/08/2014 22:43:48
7 forum posts

Oh joys lol I have some metal epoxy that I could use to stick it back in with. It's weird that it just started to vibrate loudly.

Thank you gents for your time and help.☺

Ian S C25/08/2014 12:32:24
avatar
7468 forum posts
230 photos

The best thing to stick it together would be Bearing Grade Loctite(can't remember the number), with that the bearing can be removed with a normal bearing puller, it will also fill quite a big gap. I used it on the top bearing of my Vertical Milling machine's top bearing, after it spun in it's housing.

Ian S C

roofer25/08/2014 21:06:07
21 forum posts

Do remember though its a ting tong special and ive had my fair share of far East precision and its merits of things not fitting.

Michael Gilligan25/08/2014 21:31:39
avatar
23121 forum posts
1360 photos

Terry,

I agree completely with Ian's approach

641 is probably the most suitable grade.

MichaelG.

Terry Blush25/08/2014 23:20:24
7 forum posts

Cheers again, I'll have a look for some 641 and hopefully that'll do the trick.

All Topics | Latest Posts

Please login to post a reply.

Magazine Locator

Want the latest issue of Model Engineer or Model Engineers' Workshop? Use our magazine locator links to find your nearest stockist!

Find Model Engineer & Model Engineers' Workshop

Sign up to our Newsletter

Sign up to our newsletter and get a free digital issue.

You can unsubscribe at anytime. View our privacy policy at www.mortons.co.uk/privacy

Latest Forum Posts
Support Our Partners
cowells
Sarik
MERIDIENNE EXHIBITIONS LTD
Subscription Offer

Latest "For Sale" Ads
Latest "Wanted" Ads
Get In Touch!

Do you want to contact the Model Engineer and Model Engineers' Workshop team?

You can contact us by phone, mail or email about the magazines including becoming a contributor, submitting reader's letters or making queries about articles. You can also get in touch about this website, advertising or other general issues.

Click THIS LINK for full contact details.

For subscription issues please see THIS LINK.

Digital Back Issues

Social Media online

'Like' us on Facebook
Follow us on Facebook

Follow us on Twitter
 Twitter Logo

Pin us on Pinterest

 

Donate

donate