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Peter Simpson 209/04/2012 09:51:18
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Hi,

My Tom Senior light vertical (metric) milling machine has a fair bit of back lash in the X and Y lead screws. Has anybody out there had new lead screw nut manufactured ? If so could you suggest a suitable supplier of these items.

Mant thanks Peter

John Haine09/04/2012 11:01:59
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You could look at this thread...

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general-archive/casting-leadscrew-nut-91107/

_Paul_09/04/2012 11:25:25
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The X axis leadscrew nut in my old Geo. Taylor Mill was badly worn with over 0.050" backlash, I looked at buying replacement 10 TPI Acme stock and a new nut with a view of machining to suit.

Then I came across this thread Acetal leadscew Nuts the easy way with nothing to lose other than the small cost of some Acetal bar I tried it, that was some months ago the machine has less than 0.002" backlash now and is very smooth to use.

It was surprisingly easy to do.

I now intend to do the same with the Y axis.

Regards

Paul

JohnF09/04/2012 12:30:45
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Hi Peter, I don't know what other equipment you have but probably a lathe so why not make a nut from scratch and screw cut it to suit. Check your lead screw for wear first -- not 100% method but is the backlash the same at the two extreem's of travel as it is in the centre? If so then the wear is in the nut, if a little different then the screw is worn as well and it may be best to replace both.

I used to recondition small lathes many years ago and made many of these, it is a little more difficult if it is an acme thread because you need an acurate tool ground to suit but Tracy tools do some acme taps --never used one but its worth a look and if available in your size you could screw cut to near size then finish with the tap.

Best of luck. John

Russell Eberhardt09/04/2012 20:49:32
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...or you could make anti-backlash delrin nuts similar to those described by Brian Pitts in the Yahoo

hf47158toCNC_Moderated group.

Russell.

Tim Stacey21/04/2012 08:02:21
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Turning up a replacement is not a huge job and very rewarding if you have got a lathe. RDG also do a range of ACME taps at sensible cost if they match your leadscrew dimensions and could avoid the need to get into internal cutting.

Regards

Tim

mgnbuk21/04/2012 10:23:59
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If your leadscrew is worn & your lathe is long enough to traverse the thread length, you could re-cut the thread slightly thinner to get it even along the length & screwcut a nut to suit. That was the method employed during lathe refubishment by a company I was seconded to as an apprentice to widen my experience - I was paid car mileage rates to deliver the worn screw & nut to the machine shop & collect the refubished screw / new nut on my motorcyle. I had the screw (the cross slide screw from a Herbert lathe IIRC) strapped length-wise along the bike.

Regards,

Nigel B.

Ian S C21/04/2012 11:41:53
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One method of dealing with a warn lead screw (in ME)was to turn the lead screw end for end, The right hand end does'nt get the wear that it does near the chuck. Ian S C

GoCreate22/04/2012 04:32:49
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Hi

This method looks great, would it be a good compromise for a cnc conversion? Provided you can accept a very small amount of backlash. Save allot of time and expense changing to ball screws. Maybe friction would be the issue though so more cost on bigger steppers and drivers.

Nigel

dcosta22/04/2012 11:05:44
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Hello Nigel.

Please look here to see another possibility for replacing the feed screw nuts.

I used Delrin (or POM) in the feed screw nut in my shapper machine. But I did not use the above method. I made the thread using a tap set and as far as I can see there is no sign of backlash.

I have yet to test the nut in service.

Best regrads

Dias Costa

GoCreate22/04/2012 12:51:18
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Hi Dias

Thanks for the link, actually that's what I was referring to, it's the same link given by Paul above, sorry I did not explain myself fully.

Looks a very easy method, reading through that thread it seems the Acetal is surprisingly durable.

I would be interested in how your Delrin nut performs.

Thanks

Nigel

dcosta22/04/2012 13:06:26
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Hello Nigel (and Paul).

I apologize for this lack of my to the Paul's post.
I've done dozens of hours of tests on empty and there is no sign of backlash. There's still a little time for the tests under load.
If you are interested I can join a photography of the nut with a little more detail (and quality...) to my photo album of the shaper machine here.

Best regrads

Dias Costa

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