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Andrew Johnston18/07/2011 23:03:12
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..........unless you know different; swarf that is! I was in a bit of hurry to machine a 3" bar of steel (EN3B I think) down to 1.5" diameter this evening. Set the speed to 800rpm, depth of cut 0.1" and feedrate 4 thou/rev. The swarf came off in loooooong tightly curled lengths, interspered with shorter lengths. The longest single length I could find is shown below; a bit over 11 feet. The ruler is a 600mm one.
 

 
I also managed to burn my foot, and ruin another pair of socks, while operating the lathe; it takes real 'genius' to be that creative!
 
Regards,
 
Andrew
John Stevenson18/07/2011 23:10:34
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If you were in that much of a hurry then you should have been running at 1400 revs and 4mm cut.
Medium feed [ don't know what that is never looked at the book <g> ]
 
John S.
Billy Mills18/07/2011 23:32:13
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I had a longer one than you but it went rusty and dropped off. How did you manage to do in the first pair of socks Andrew? is your lathe fitted with foot wheels? the Mystery deepens.....
 
Happy Risk Assessments
 
Billy.
 

Andrew Johnston18/07/2011 23:41:41
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Posted by John Stevenson on 18/07/2011 23:10:34:
If you were in that much of a hurry then you should have been running at 1400 revs and 4mm cut.
 
John S.
 
Steady on, I've only got a weeny lathe!
 
Andrew
chris stephens18/07/2011 23:55:52
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Hi Andrew,
11 Feet, pathetic,
A few years ago I was turning down some 80mm nylon, and got swarf that was around 150-175 YARDS long. I was going to take it to MEX at Sandown for a "guess the length of the swarf" competition on the SMEE stand. I haven't given the exact length in case the idea gets resurrected another time.
chriStephens
EDIT I did it deliberately just for the fun of it, otherwise I would have taken  a heavier feed rate.

Edited By chris stephens on 18/07/2011 23:57:26

Andrew Johnston19/07/2011 00:02:53
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Ah ha, I knew I'd be out-swarffed in short (long?) order.
 
Impressive, when I turn plastic the swarf always seems to wrap itself around the job in a big ball getting tighter and tighter, and generating heat, so I have to stop and clear it before it overheats and melts.
 
Andrew
chris stephens19/07/2011 00:30:52
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Hi Andrew,
Don't feel bad about it, I was winding it up as I was going so that it did not get tangled.
chriStephens
Dave Tointon19/07/2011 02:09:35
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I'd be inclined to increase the feed rate until the swarf chips into little blue pieces. much safer to clean up and a few of those down your boot will ruin a pair of socks very efficiently and give you a nasty burn as well!!!
Regards
Dave Tointon
 
Ian S C19/07/2011 11:57:07
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I did'nt measure my longest bit , it was 316 stainlessthat I was boring out to make a cup shaped piece for the hot end for one of my hot air engines. I was going a bit slow, about 500rpm, and taking 2 mm cuts, to bore a hole 1 3/4" dia. Ian S C
NJH19/07/2011 12:21:05
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You Guys need to get out more!    
Cheers
Norman

Edited By NJH on 19/07/2011 12:21:32

chris stephens19/07/2011 13:38:01
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What, and miss all the fun?
chriStephens
Andrew Johnston19/07/2011 15:47:36
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Posted by NJH on 19/07/2011 12:21:05:
You Guys need to get out more!
Cheers
Norman
 
Quite the reverse actually! I seem to be out and about non-stop, so very little workshop time available, hence the rush that resulted in this thread.
 
Dave: Actually the loooong swarf was the exception rather than the rule. Most of it came off in lengths between 1" and 10". It seemed to alternate, one cut long, the next short. Presumably some subtle changes in the cutting parameters determine the length, but I'm blowed if I know what. It was one of the short purple bits of swarf that got into my shoe, and resulted in the ejection of said shoe about a millisecond later. Left a nice hole in the sock and a pretty pattern burnt into my foot.
 
According to my calculations I was removing 2.9 cubic inches per minute. Allowing 1hp per cubic inch per minute, I was on the limit, as I have a 3hp motor on my lathe. You could certainly hear the headstock gears taking the strain and slowing down slightly.
 
Regards,
 
Andrew
 
PS: The first pair of socks were ruined when I dropped a shovel load of swarf on my shoes when clearing up. There were so many little bits of sharp swarf embedded in the socks it was easier to throw them away.
Fil19/07/2011 15:59:04
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Doesn't everyone wear flared trousers to prevent the swarf-in-sock syndrome
Andrew Johnston19/07/2011 16:04:53
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Yes, but as I'm getting older the trousers need to be flared at the waist line to allow for expansion, rather than at the trouser end.
 
Andrew
Stub Mandrel21/07/2011 20:37:20
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Chris,
 
Your nylon swarf... perhaps you could teach the anglers how to make their own monofil.
 
Neil

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