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M R26/06/2011 11:04:47
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To cure the small leaks in a boiler,Stan Bray suggests that the holes be drilled and filled with a tight fitting plug where possible and although soft solder is mentioned,he sounds as if this is not an ideal solution:Martin Evans book on model boilers,states that soft solder can be used but,it must not be the ordinary plumbers grade.Henry Greenly’s book “Model Engineering” mentions using oatmeal (within reason).How is this used,is it mixed with the water to be used to fill the boiler and then heated-will oatmeal used to make porridge do the job? This method reminds me of the old trick of putting an egg in a leaky car radiator.

In an (oldish catalogue) Blackgates Engineering list a lead solder melting at 296 degrees centigrade is this suitable for use on a copper boiler which is already soldered with a 610-620 degree melting range silver solder.Work on my engine is at a standstill so any information will be much appreciated

JasonB26/06/2011 12:56:20
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Talk to your boiler inspector first but you may be able to use a high temp soft solder like Comsol which is what Blackgates sell, Reeves also do it.
 
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Jens Eirik Skogstad26/06/2011 15:31:51
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Inn old days the leaking boiler was cured with horse dung
Roderick Jenkins26/06/2011 18:40:41
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Alec Farmer in "Model Locomotive Boiler Making" recommended the use of high temperature soft solder for sealing small leaks. From what I remember though, you cannot then go back and do any silver soldering, the soft solder will alloy with the hard solder and form a brittle compound. My "Jenny Lind" project stalled at this point many years ago with a pin hole in the firebox crown. I never could decide how to fix this - it's still waiting.
 
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KWIL26/06/2011 21:56:37
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Rod you are correct, once you introduce lead there is no going back. A good boiler maker may be able to fix it with silver solder. How big a leak and where?
 

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M R27/06/2011 19:14:56
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M R 26/06/2011 11:04:47
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 To cure the small leaks in a boiler,Stan Bray suggests that the holes be drilled and filled with a tight fitting plug where possible and although soft solder is mentioned,he sounds as if this is not an ideal solution:Martin Evans book on model boilers,states that soft solder can be used but,it must not be the ordinary plumbers grade.Henry Greenly’s book “Model Engineering” mentions using oatmeal (within reason).How is this used,is it mixed with the water to be used to fill the boiler and then heated-will oatmeal used to make porridge do the job? This method reminds me of the old trick of putting an egg in a leaky car radiator.

In an (oldish catalogue) Blackgates Engineering list a lead solder melting at 296 degrees centigrade is this suitable for use on a copper boiler which is already soldered with a 610-620 degree melting range silver solder.Work on my engine is at a standstill so any information will be much appreciated
 
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Thanks for taking the time to reply will most likely use Consol.Not in touch with a boiler inspector unfortunately.
Jens Eirik Skogstad An Interesting fact,horse dung appears to have been very useful item in the pastie;bell moulds,explosives not to mention soil treatment and rose mulch.If I find a 1in scale horse I may try that method.
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I can no reason for the need to further silver soldering so as mentioned above it looks like
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David Clark 127/06/2011 21:01:40
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Hi Maurice
Please click on the past from Word button or paste into notepad then copy and paste into here.
Otherwise you mess the format up.
regards David
 
Terryd27/06/2011 21:25:01
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Posted by M R on 27/06/2011 19:14:56:
Jens Eirik Skogstad An Interesting fact,horse dung appears to have been very useful item in the pastie;................
 
 

Maurice Rhodes

Edited By David Clark 1 on 27/06/2011 21:00:23

I prefer swede, onions and minced beef in my pasties. Still, each to his own, so to speak.
 
Best regards
 
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Stub Mandrel28/06/2011 20:00:55
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I'm a vegetarian, so as long as it's herbivore dung in my pasties...
 
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M R29/06/2011 09:54:28
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Past ie-What a difference a space makes.Think I'm good enough to get a job journalism ?
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