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Michael Gilligan28/09/2023 10:41:28
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Coming soon :**LINK**

https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-5/

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JA28/09/2023 12:33:53
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It could almost compete with my twelve year old lap top.

JA

Dave S28/09/2023 17:50:22
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Its more like a 5 year old laptop really...

Totally usable as a 'normal' computer.

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Also not many old laptops can do 2 screens at 4k/60, have 2 cameras and GPIO.

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I think this one is going to end up as the CNC controller for my CNC build.

Dave

Michael Gilligan28/09/2023 18:01:28
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How did you get one before the release-date, Dave ?

Back-end of October was what I read sad

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Edited By Michael Gilligan on 28/09/2023 18:02:44

Dave S28/09/2023 18:04:36
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I'm Head of Engineering at a Raspberry Pi Design Partner.

One of the harder parts of the job is knowing the stuff which is coming and not telling anyone...

Dave

Michael Gilligan28/09/2023 18:09:08
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laughyes

So presumably you’ve thoroughly tested it and I’m safe pre-ordering one

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Dave S28/09/2023 18:21:51
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Its the best Pi yet.

Would recommend getting the cooler or the dedicated case with fan in it - the CPU runs quite a bit hotter than the 4 - not dangerously so, but hot enough that I'll be adding a cooler once I get round to it.

It can also peak a lot of current from the PSU, so whilst the 3A supply for a Pi4 is fine (that's what I'm currently using) if you don't have a lot of things hanging off the USB etc the new supply is designed to support maximum performance. I will be buying (with my own money) one of those when they become available.

Seeing it run with a pair of cameras and 2 4k screens was impressive - I can see it being the basis for a Projector + cameras shape measurement system at 'fairly' low cost. (I used to do precision high speed large volume optical metrology at a previous job).

The PCIe connector is going to open up some interesting possibilities...

Interestingly the feature the Pi team seemed most pleased with was the power button...

Dave

Michael Gilligan28/09/2023 18:33:33
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Thanks, Dave … much appreciated

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John McNamara29/09/2023 09:51:39
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Gee Dave
You Mentioned, "(I used to do precision high speed large volume optical metrology at a previous job)".

Are you able to say how?

Regards
J

Russell Eberhardt29/09/2023 10:32:59
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Posted by Dave S on 28/09/2023 17:50:22:

I think this one is going to end up as the CNC controller for my CNC build.

Dave

Looks like a good candidate to replace the Dell computer I bought second hand 10 years ago for my CNC build. Can the raspberry Pi version of Linux CNC emulate a parallel printer port for my driver electronics?

Russell

Mark Rand29/09/2023 11:49:55
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Posted by Russell Eberhardt on 29/09/2023 10:32:59:

Looks like a good candidate to replace the Dell computer I bought second hand 10 years ago for my CNC build. Can the raspberry Pi version of Linux CNC emulate a parallel printer port for my driver electronics?

Russell

Should be a fairly simple bit of coding. The Centronics interface is/was pretty simple minded. Enough so that I emulated it woth oneof our HP computers in the early '90s in order to drive a printer that had been bought in mistake by the department.

Benedict White29/09/2023 11:52:37
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Posted by Dave S on 28/09/2023 18:04:36:

I'm Head of Engineering at a Raspberry Pi Design Partner.

One of the harder parts of the job is knowing the stuff which is coming and not telling anyone...

Dave

Cheat!

Dave S29/09/2023 12:11:32
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John,

This should link the the sales pdf: Wayback Machine (archive.org)

Basically project a load of straight lines, take a photo form the side, do some maths to decode the bendyness the camera sees.

A quick google shows there are several parallel port HATs available for a Pi - thats probably the route I would take if I needed to.

Dave

Michael Gilligan29/09/2023 12:57:52
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Posted by Dave S on 29/09/2023 12:11:32:

John,

This should link the the sales pdf: Wayback Machine (archive.org)

[…]

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Am I being dim, Dave ?

… your link only gives me the glossy front-cover sad

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Dave S29/09/2023 15:13:07
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Should be a 7 or 8 page brochure. The company was Phase Vision, so you could always search phasevision.com on the wayback machine.

Sadly ran out of money, as with a lot of startup / spinouts.

Dave

Michael Gilligan29/09/2023 16:16:31
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… of Loughborough, no less

[ I did Ergonomics with Human Biology there ]

Still digging for the brochure, but I did find this interesting paper:**LINK**

https://web.archive.org/web/20190427012848id_/https://www.spiedigitallibrary.org/journals/Journal-of-Biomedical-Optics/volume-16/issue-6/066005/Comparison-on-different-insects-wing-displacements-using-high-speed-digital/10.1117/1.3586778.pdf

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Michael Gilligan29/09/2023 16:24:41
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Russell Eberhardt29/09/2023 16:51:14
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Posted by Dave S on 29/09/2023 12:11:32:

A quick google shows there are several parallel port HATs available for a Pi - thats probably the route I would take if I needed to.

Dave

Thanks, one of those should do the trick.

Russell

Bazyle29/09/2023 18:05:50
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Posted by Russell Eberhardt on 29/09/2023 16:51:14:
Posted by Dave S on 29/09/2023 12:11:32:

A quick google shows there are several parallel port HATs available for a Pi - thats probably the route I would take if I needed to.

Dave

Thanks, one of those should do the trick.

Russell

I thought the big problem for LinuxCNC using the printer port was the multitasking of the processor, particularly video generation, screwing up the timing for direct drive of steppers. It should be possible to avoid this by leaving one of the cores for the user to use unmolested, but is that the case?

Russell Eberhardt30/09/2023 13:51:08
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Posted by Bazyle on 29/09/2023 18:05:50:

I thought the big problem for LinuxCNC using the printer port was the multitasking of the processor, particularly video generation, screwing up the timing for direct drive of steppers. It should be possible to avoid this by leaving one of the cores for the user to use unmolested, but is that the case?

Well, my current cnc system runs LinuxCNC on a single core 3.2 GHz processor. Yes. the parallel printer port does cause some timing issues but I found the reduced step rate needed to prevent lost steps was still fast enough for me. I would imagine the four cores at 2.4 GHz of the Pi 5 should beat my old computer.

Russell

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