By continuing to use this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more
Forum sponsored by:
Forum sponsored by Forum House Ad Zone

Scary stuff …

All Topics | Latest Posts

Search for:  in Thread Title in  
Michael Gilligan27/05/2023 22:27:08
avatar
23121 forum posts
1360 photos

Let’s try to keep Politics out of this …

There’s an interesting/scary story on the Guardian page tonight:

NHS data breach: trusts shared patient details with Facebook without consent

Observer investigation reveals Meta Pixel tool passed on private details of web browsing on medical sites

.

It is, I suggest, worth reading !

MichaelG.

.

Ref. __ https://developers.facebook.com/docs/meta-pixel/

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 27/05/2023 22:34:04

Ady127/05/2023 23:03:22
avatar
6137 forum posts
893 photos

Every time you "upgrade" your computer or internet browser the easier you make it for them to track your activities

All completely legal of course

As a W7 user Chrome can't touch me

Depending on the browser I use, various websites may or may not let me in

"Your computer browser is out of date!" means "We can't track you!"

Edited By Ady1 on 27/05/2023 23:12:35

Thor 🇳🇴28/05/2023 07:09:36
avatar
1766 forum posts
46 photos

There are a few things you can do to make tracking you a bit more difficult, just do an internet searh. But I guess full privacy is difficult in our internet world as we leave electronic traces.

Thor

 

 

 

 

Edited By Thor 🇳🇴 on 28/05/2023 07:20:19

john halfpenny28/05/2023 09:15:29
314 forum posts
28 photos

What is laughable is that Meta harvest this data automatically as a function of their software, but have T&Cs that prohibit users from sending personal data. How does that work?

Michael Gilligan28/05/2023 09:42:32
avatar
23121 forum posts
1360 photos

There’s a little more about this story on the Independent this morning

[ funny how much reporting of others’ work goes on ]

____

According to The Observer, 17 of the 20 NHS trusts found to be using Meta Pixel confirmed they had pulled the tracking tool from their websites over the weekend.

Many of the trusts said they installed the tracking pixels to monitor recruitment or charity campaigns and were not aware that they were sending patient data to Facebook.

One of the trusts, Buckinghamshire Healthcare NHS trust, previously said in its privacy policy that “confidential personal information about your health and care… would never be used for marketing purposes without your explicit consent”.

In a statement to the Observer, the trust apologised to patients and said Meta Pixel had been “installed in relation to a recruitment campaign, and we were not aware that Meta was using this information for marketing purposes”.

“Immediate action has been taken to remove it,” a spokesperson from the trust added.

____

MichaelG.

.

P.S.

not aware” would appear to be the damning phrase !!

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 28/05/2023 09:46:50

Frances IoM28/05/2023 09:54:33
1395 forum posts
30 photos
as I've pointed out for years now this site also embeds a facebook tracker tho I guess an interest in engineering has not yet been declared a medical problem.
SillyOldDuffer28/05/2023 10:49:46
10668 forum posts
2415 photos
Posted by Ady1 on 27/05/2023 23:03:22:

Every time you "upgrade" your computer or internet browser the easier you make it for them to track your activities

All completely legal of course

As a W7 user Chrome can't touch me

Depending on the browser I use, various websites may or may not let me in

"Your computer browser is out of date!" means "We can't track you!"

...

Other way round unfortunately! Not upgrading computers causes far more trouble than keeping them up to date.

Trouble is security loopholes are discovered after software is delivered, maybe years later. The only way to fix flaws is by upgrading. Or avoid the risk by disconnecting entirely.

In the Meta Pixel example there's nothing in W7 or an older browser that automatically stops it working. It, and similar, can be blocked but the user has to configure his browser. Assuming an old set-up will resist a new attack is wrong. (Not just computers, All assumptions are iffy! Check!)

Of course new technologies bring different risks. For example, as far as I know, the original Internet Explorer made money through sales. In contrast, Edge is 'free', but it earns money by collecting user data so that advertisers can target individuals. Unfortunately, collections of user data can also be used for nefarious purposes.

What I do:

  • Linux is safer than Windows, so is used for almost all browsing.
  • Firefox has enhanced privacy features compared with some other browsers and being Open Source isn't monetised by a commercial owner.
  • Firefox is configured by me:
    • The Search Engine is DuckDuckGo, not Google, Bing, Yahoo etc. (DuckDuckGo promise not to track)
    • I have also installed 'DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials'. On this forum page, which is low risk, it has blocked Facebook, Crazy Egg and 2 different Google trackers. Because I allow advertising on this site it permits Ads from google, gstatic, and advintage that would otherwise be blocked.
    • Generally I block adverts because the difference between legitimate Ads and trackers is narrow.
  • GDPR and other legislation requires sites to ask permission before they use cookies. If the site offers a plain 'Reject All' button, use it. However, many sites ask permission in ambiguous ways: it's not clear what acceptance actually blocks and allows. 'Legitimate Interest' is meaningless. I walk away from these. Websites that have chosen to be unclear about cookies are likely to be collecting more data than I want to release.
  • Internet hygiene is important. Although most legitimate sites are safe-ish, avoid off colour humour, political, porn, gambling, drugs, or anything else that fluffs your interest with dodgy material.
  • I do not assume that any of the above, or the security measures I haven't listed, are valid for ever. For example, I periodically check the Firefox is still a good choice: software changes rapidly, so it's always possible a different browser, ad-blocker, privacy tool or whatever else will do a better job.

I'm Windows 10 at the moment and dithering about going to W11. Doing so involves making a BIOS change and it could go wrong! But the clock is ticking - W10 goes out of support on October 14, 2025. Functionally W11 doesn't do anything I want, so I could leave it alone. But this introduces another risk, which is the size of the gap that has to be jumped between an ancient version of an operating system and the newest. Best to keep the gap small: apart from the increased risk of a technical malfunction, anyone jumping from W7 to W11 will find a multitude of differences when they arrive. An when I fire up W11 I know Microsoft will have switched off all my security selections and I'll have to wade through putting them back. It's a pain. Unfortunately, procrastination usually causes even more hassle in the long run.

Dave

Peter G. Shaw28/05/2023 11:39:19
avatar
1531 forum posts
44 photos

So, Dave, knowing what you do know about W11, why then do you continue to support them? Especially when you've already said that Linux is safer than Windows.

Peter G. Shaw

All Topics | Latest Posts

Please login to post a reply.

Magazine Locator

Want the latest issue of Model Engineer or Model Engineers' Workshop? Use our magazine locator links to find your nearest stockist!

Find Model Engineer & Model Engineers' Workshop

Sign up to our Newsletter

Sign up to our newsletter and get a free digital issue.

You can unsubscribe at anytime. View our privacy policy at www.mortons.co.uk/privacy

Latest Forum Posts
Support Our Partners
cowells
Sarik
MERIDIENNE EXHIBITIONS LTD
Subscription Offer

Latest "For Sale" Ads
Latest "Wanted" Ads
Get In Touch!

Do you want to contact the Model Engineer and Model Engineers' Workshop team?

You can contact us by phone, mail or email about the magazines including becoming a contributor, submitting reader's letters or making queries about articles. You can also get in touch about this website, advertising or other general issues.

Click THIS LINK for full contact details.

For subscription issues please see THIS LINK.

Digital Back Issues

Social Media online

'Like' us on Facebook
Follow us on Facebook

Follow us on Twitter
 Twitter Logo

Pin us on Pinterest

 

Donate

donate