David Noble | 21/12/2022 15:32:14 |
![]() 402 forum posts 37 photos | Any tips on how to soft solder cast iron please? I'm struggling to get it to 'wet' David |
Brian Wood | 21/12/2022 15:52:06 |
2742 forum posts 39 photos | Hello David, I'm not surprised! The carbon content will make it impossible as it tends to act as a surface contaminant. Much better success is assured in joining to Cast Iron with high temperature bronze welding which also makes a strong joint. You do need oxy/acetylene to get the temperature needed though Regards Brian |
JasonB | 21/12/2022 15:57:56 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | Preheating to red heat will drive the carbon to the surface which can then be wire brushed off when the part has cooled, you can then silver solder and I believe the same method can be used for soft soldering though I have only used this method for silver soldering.. |
David Noble | 21/12/2022 16:08:55 |
![]() 402 forum posts 37 photos | Thanks, I haven't got enough heat to silver solder or to get it to red heat. I'll have to think again. I started by going to a local engineering shop to ask them to braze it. They said that they don't use acetylene any more for various reasons i.e. cost and availability and the gas they use isn't suitable for brazing. The second and third shops that I tried gave me the same answer. The fourth told me 'yes no problem' but after three weeks I've just been to collect it as they still haven't done it. David Edited By David Noble on 21/12/2022 16:13:18 |
RMA | 21/12/2022 16:53:46 |
332 forum posts 4 photos | Depending on application and whether you consider soldering essential. I have used JB weld on CI and it works a treat. Much prefer the original to the fast stuff. |
Brian Wood | 21/12/2022 18:13:02 |
2742 forum posts 39 photos | Hello again David, I have the necessary gases and will do the brazing for you but a bit of information beforehand would be helpful in planning the work if it is a big job. Send me an email please wood_y(at) btinternet(dot)com There is an underscore between the d and the y Regards Brian |
Ady1 | 21/12/2022 18:23:16 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | Decent cast iron welds pretty easily if you've got a pal with a buzzbox |
David Noble | 21/12/2022 19:57:30 |
![]() 402 forum posts 37 photos | Thank you Brian, that's very kind. David |
Jeff Dayman | 21/12/2022 22:18:09 |
2356 forum posts 47 photos | Hi David, no idea what needs to be repaired, but if it is a simplish sort of part, is fabbing/machining a new one from solid CI stock like Durabar or Meehanite a possibility? Obviously this won't be an option if it's something big or complex but worth a thought of it's smaller and not too involved. Just a thought. |
David Noble | 21/12/2022 22:37:41 |
![]() 402 forum posts 37 photos | Posted by Jeff Dayman on 21/12/2022 22:18:09:
Hi David, no idea what needs to be repaired, but if it is a simplish sort of part, is fabbing/machining a new one from solid CI stock like Durabar or Meehanite a possibility? Obviously this won't be an option if it's something big or complex but worth a thought of it's smaller and not too involved. Just a thought. Thanks Jeff, yes it would be possible but a repair will be easier and more cost effective/cheaper David
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Pete. | 21/12/2022 22:48:10 |
![]() 910 forum posts 303 photos | What are you trying to repair? can we see? I'm curious to know what a professional outfit put off for 3 weeks. |
David George 1 | 22/12/2022 07:48:22 |
![]() 2110 forum posts 565 photos | Hi David I was given a cast iron base casting for a Stuart steem engine. If had been cast faulty with a piece of the base not filled. I cleaned up the area and made an insert of cast iron to match with a little to clean up after soldering. Fluxed and heated in a hearth to keep in the heat in with my blow torch and silver solder no problem. David
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David Noble | 22/12/2022 10:09:00 |
![]() 402 forum posts 37 photos | Posted by Pete. on 21/12/2022 22:48:10:
What are you trying to repair? can we see? I'm curious to know what a professional outfit put off for 3 weeks. Hello Pete, of course you can see, it's just that I'm a little embarrassed having admitted that I'm trying to soft solder it! It's a steel gear wheel and a cast iron sleeve on a Mellor lathe that I'm restoring. David |
Ady1 | 22/12/2022 10:23:50 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | Could you key it on? Better for high torque applications |
duncan webster | 22/12/2022 10:34:12 |
5307 forum posts 83 photos | High strength loctite? |
David Noble | 22/12/2022 11:05:56 |
![]() 402 forum posts 37 photos | I hadn't thought about a key, thank you. The problem is a little more complex though. Having got the lathe as a box of bits, I 'think' that originally the gear wheel was also cast iron and part of the sleeve. for some reason the wheel has broken and this is an attempt by someone to repair it. The wheel is only bored out for 3 or 4 mm just enough for a register. If I machine the wheel all the way through to accept a key, I think that it will leave the sleeve too short. There is a triple pulley to fit on the other end of the sleeve. Last resort I think will be to make a new sleeve and wheel in one piece. David |
noel shelley | 22/12/2022 11:12:44 |
2308 forum posts 33 photos | Hi David, not sure where you are but I'm on the N Norfolk coast = Hunstanton. If Brian is a long way from you and I'm nearer then I also have oxy propane Etc and will happily do it for you. Even a while you wait ! PM me if I can help. Noel. |
Ady1 | 22/12/2022 11:18:15 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | Four quick tackwelds with a decent buzzbox would do it in 5 minutes 100-120 amps with mig gasless wire Instant practical problem fix... but cosmetically ugly I had to use a key because my replacement cog was aluminium Edited By Ady1 on 22/12/2022 11:28:48 |
David Noble | 22/12/2022 11:48:25 |
![]() 402 forum posts 37 photos | Posted by noel shelley on 22/12/2022 11:12:44:
Hi David, not sure where you are but I'm on the N Norfolk coast = Hunstanton. If Brian is a long way from you and I'm nearer then I also have oxy propane Etc and will happily do it for you. Even a while you wait ! PM me if I can help. Noel. Thanks Noel, Brian is definitely nearer. David |
David Noble | 22/12/2022 15:55:43 |
![]() 402 forum posts 37 photos | O.K. After chatting with Brian, I've decided not to prevaricate any longer and I've ordered a piece of cast iron to make a new one in one piece. Thanks all, David |
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