Dougie Swan | 05/09/2022 17:14:24 |
269 forum posts 73 photos | Hi I am considering making the bearings for my latest engine from babbit I am thinking of casting two half round and soldering them together for machining My question is can I solder babbitt or is the melting point too close to the solder melting point Thanks in advance Dougie |
Michael Gilligan | 05/09/2022 17:44:17 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Now there’s a question, Dougie The answer is … it will depend which one !! No, I am not trying to be funny Wikipedia will explain: **LINK** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babbitt_(alloy) MichaelG. |
Dougie Swan | 05/09/2022 18:00:54 |
269 forum posts 73 photos | Well that was eye opening Thanks Michael |
Speedy Builder5 | 05/09/2022 18:11:24 |
2878 forum posts 248 photos | Can you hold the two halves of the bearing together with the bearing bolts and then machine them? |
duncan webster | 05/09/2022 18:54:17 |
5307 forum posts 83 photos | Super Glue? |
old mart | 05/09/2022 19:13:54 |
4655 forum posts 304 photos | Another way would be to make two bearings, bore them and cut them in two with a hacksaw offset from the centre and then filing or milling the bigger one of each back to the centreline. |
Jeff Dayman | 05/09/2022 19:29:46 |
2356 forum posts 47 photos | Suggest a mechanical jig to hold the bits for machining, rather than soldering. Better yet forget the babbitt and go with SAE 660 bronze bushings, or cast iron bushings. |
bernard towers | 05/09/2022 20:59:57 |
1221 forum posts 161 photos | Plus one for superglue I have used it and it works well (keep cool). |
Henry Brown | 06/09/2022 11:21:06 |
![]() 618 forum posts 122 photos | In my experience Babbit or white metal is usually backed by steel or something rigid as it is very soft. The Co. I used to work for made them in all sizes from about 25mm to 600mm diameter, both split halves and unsplit, all for use in their gearboxes. |
Martin Johnson 1 | 06/09/2022 12:32:20 |
320 forum posts 1 photos | Do you already have some babbitt or whitemetal? If not expect eye watering prices. I purchased some a few years ago to make a steering nut. Martin |
Dougie Swan | 06/09/2022 13:21:01 |
269 forum posts 73 photos | Thanks for the replies I have got some babbit, that's what made me think about the bearings, but I think I will probably stick with bronze Dougie |
not done it yet | 06/09/2022 13:28:04 |
7517 forum posts 20 photos | Babbit bearings, in my experience, have been supported within a steel structure - generally cast in situ and then machined. The supporting material can be clamped, glued, soldered? (carefully). Perhaps I’ve only come across larger bearings of this type, but that is generally the way it is done. Shimmed bearing halves so that they can be scraped, and shims removed, to adjust the bearings for fit/wear. |
OuBallie | 06/09/2022 14:03:12 |
![]() 1181 forum posts 669 photos | Something of interest are my Austin Seven two bearing conrods with cast in place bearing material. Considering age of car these are in nigh on perfect condition, other than the oil retaining ‘pits’. Geoff - Feeling somewhat human again Edited By OuBallie on 06/09/2022 14:05:45 |
not done it yet | 06/09/2022 20:00:33 |
7517 forum posts 20 photos | I have four rods, for a 2 3/4” crank, needing to be re-metalled. Doubt I will ever get round to it as I have a good set of mains and rods. Unless needed, the 20kg of white metal can remain as two cast cylindrical lumps of metal. When I had to rebuild my 73 year-old tractor, about 35 years ago, all I had to do was remove shims from between the con-rod and end-cap. Max crankshaft speed was only 1125rpm and it had only been worked hard for about 15 years on a 150 acre farm. |
Martin Kyte | 06/09/2022 20:35:19 |
![]() 3445 forum posts 62 photos | Posted by OuBallie on 06/09/2022 14:03:12:
Something of interest are my Austin Seven two bearing conrods with cast in place bearing material. Considering age of car these are in nigh on perfect condition, other than the oil retaining ‘pits’. Geoff - Feeling somewhat human again Edited By OuBallie on 06/09/2022 14:05:45 Nice to hear you feeling better. regards Martin |
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