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Where can I buy an individual Starrett 167M-1/2 Radius Gauge, 0.5mm

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John Smith 4704/01/2022 18:02:22
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Hello

Nice simple question: "Where in the UK can I buy a Starrett 167M-1/2 Radius Gauge, 0.5mm"



Constraints:
- Must be metric.
- No larger than 0.5mm
- Doesn't have to be the Starrett brand (e.g. Accusize, KRISTEEL Shinwa, is fine) but must be L-shaped (i.e. like the photo)
- Must be currently in stock and deliverable within 14 days
- Must be sold individually rather than part of a set (OR a total cost of less than £15)
- Does not need to be new

e.g.
==> Amazon are out of stock.
(https://www.amazon.co.uk/Starrett-167M-1-0-5MM-Individual-Radius/dp/B000VDVOE2)

And I can't find any other UK-based merchants who sell them individually.

REQUEST: Please don't answer any other question!

With thanks

J


HOWARDT04/01/2022 18:26:53
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Try H. Robert’s & Sons, Leicester. Quick look showed 0.02” orderable.

John Smith 4704/01/2022 18:44:09
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Posted by HOWARDT on 04/01/2022 18:26:53:

Try H. Robert’s & Sons, Leicester. Quick look showed 0.02” orderable.

Thank you. They don't seem to be quoting a price but I have clicked on the Enquire button.

Cheers

J

Emgee04/01/2022 19:01:48
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John

If you spot drill a 0.5mm hole into a piece of gauge plate it will provide a guide for you to machine part and finish to the hole by hand filing, you will only have to file a semi circle on the end.

For the 2 off 0.5mm external radius tool just drill the hole through the plate and machine or file the end off to mid circle.

Emgee

Edited By Emgee on 04/01/2022 19:02:16

Emgee04/01/2022 19:25:08
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Posted by John Smith 47 on 04/01/2022 18:02:22:

Hello

Nice simple question: "Where in the UK can I buy a Starrett 167M-1/2 Radius Gauge, 0.5mm"



Constraints:
- Must be metric.
- No larger than 0.5mm
- Doesn't have to be the Starrett brand (e.g. Accusize, KRISTEEL Shinwa, is fine) but must be L-shaped (i.e. like the photo)
- Must be currently in stock and deliverable within 14 days
- Must be sold individually rather than part of a set (OR a total cost of less than £15)
- Does not need to be new

Hi John

I can make 1 of those for you but not at such a low price, if you want to make me a sensible £ offer please do so by PM.

Emgee

Michael Gilligan04/01/2022 20:52:42
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Posted by John Smith 47 on 04/01/2022 18:02:22:

Hello

Nice simple question: "Where in the UK can I buy a Starrett 167M-1/2 Radius Gauge, 0.5mm"

I haven’t bothered checking ‘delivery’ … but this would seem the obvious place to start,

**LINK**

https://www.starrett.co.uk/shop/precision/gauges/radiusgaugesets/?item_id=BU272

surprise Would you ‘Adam & Eve’ it ?

MichaelG.

Robert Butler04/01/2022 21:15:40
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Starrett, US of A $16, no doubt plus tax, duty and carriage.

Robert Butler

Michael Gilligan04/01/2022 22:18:23
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 04/01/2022 20:52:42:
Posted by John Smith 47 on 04/01/2022 18:02:22:

Hello

Nice simple question: "Where in the UK can I buy a Starrett 167M-1/2 Radius Gauge, 0.5mm"

I haven’t bothered checking ‘delivery’ … but this would seem the obvious place to start,

**LINK**

https://www.starrett.co.uk/shop/precision/gauges/radiusgaugesets/?item_id=BU272

surprise Would you ‘Adam & Eve’ it ?

MichaelG.

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Just for clarity :

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MichaelG.

JasonB05/01/2022 07:40:54
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Now doubt the £17.59 total with postage will get your find rejected Michael as it's over budgetdevil

John Smith 4705/01/2022 08:48:34
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Posted by JasonB on 05/01/2022 07:40:54:

Now doubt the £17.59 total with postage will get your find rejected Michael as it's over budgetdevil

Good spot!

Hmmm... let's be honest that is eye-wateringly expensive for a small simple piece of metal, that probably took about 20 seconds to be laser cut out of a sheet of metal!

Was I mad to originally think that I might potentially get several parts - possibly even an entire set, (if second-hand) - for that that sum?

Worse it's a full £22.99 if I want it next day... ! disgust crook dont know

(...which I rather do & which I normally get from the idealogically bankrupt Amazon)


OK, MAYBE! But first I'm gonna have to think about this! And have another look at eBay...

j

Edited By John Smith 47 on 05/01/2022 08:49:01

John Smith 4705/01/2022 08:50:11
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PS Do any of you nice folks happen to have a promo code for starrett.co.uk?

Michael Gilligan05/01/2022 09:03:08
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Posted by John Smith 47 on 05/01/2022 08:48:34:

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Hmmm... let's be honest that is eye-wateringly expensive for a small simple piece of metal, that probably took about 20 seconds to be laser cut out of a sheet of metal!

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Honestly … I give up !

Jason has already [on your other thread] done his promotion for ARC’s bargain-priced offering.

Buy those … use one of them

MichaelG.

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and, please … if you ever find the time and the necessary equipment: would you kindly post some detail images of the ARC product : I am very interested to know what can be made and sold for less than a pound a piece.

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Edit: __ Here’s a serious question, for anyone who actually uses laser cutting:

What size is the beam-spot ?

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 05/01/2022 09:26:19

Michael Gilligan05/01/2022 09:11:50
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Posted by John Smith 47 on 05/01/2022 08:50:11:

PS Do any of you nice folks happen to have a promo code for starrett.co.uk?

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Perhaps you could negotiate a sponsorship deal, and get a freebie idea

Offer to show the world how good they are … by demonstrating their use in checking your pre-production items.

MichaelG.

JasonB05/01/2022 09:29:00
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 05/01/2022 09:03:08:

Honestly … I give up !

Jason has already [on your other thread] done his promotion for ARC’s bargain-priced offering.

Buy those … use one of them

MichaelG.

Better to buy the imperial set and use the three smallestyes

JasonB05/01/2022 09:30:59
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Posted by John Smith 47 on 05/01/2022 08:48:34:

Hmmm... let's be honest that is eye-wateringly expensive for a small simple piece of metal, that probably took about 20 seconds to be laser cut out of a sheet of metal!

Your paying for all the time the inventor put into developing the prototype and the maker put into working out an economic way of making, they have to get their costs back somehowdevil

Nick Wheeler05/01/2022 09:38:04
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Posted by John Smith 47 on 05/01/2022 08:48:34:
Posted by JasonB on 05/01/2022 07:40:54:

Now doubt the £17.59 total with postage will get your find rejected Michael as it's over budgetdevil

Good spot!

Hmmm... let's be honest that is eye-wateringly expensive for a small simple piece of metal, that probably took about 20 seconds to be laser cut out of a sheet of metal!

And like all small, simple, one operation parts, making them is cheap. But they don't just make one at a time, so you need to add up the material costs. Then there's quality control, stock control, handling, packaging, transport, selling on to at least one retailer etc, etc. They have to make a profit too. The real reason why that Starrett gauge is so expensive: you're buying it from a company that has been making quality stuff for 140years, so you can rely on it without having to spend any of your valuable time improving it.

How much do you expect your gadget to sell for when it's ready for sale?

John Smith 4705/01/2022 09:55:07
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JasonB & MichaelG.

Yes the smallest 3 Imperial gauges would be usable [Aside: how irritating that the the metric range don't go smaller - GRRR]

But as I said in the other thread... [see https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=176298&p=5 **LINK** ]

...the crunch problem isn't just that £30.11 already blows my £15 budget out of the water, but on top of that, because ARC Eurotrade appears to be based on continental Europe, and since 01 Jan this year, this now means that we will be changed:

"On arrival of the parcel in your country, the postal service or courier will contact you to ask you to pay the import entry charge (usually between £6.00 to £15.00 equivalent in Euros), plus Duty (for goods above a certain value)... "

Plus distance of travel delays, plus customs delays...

For these reasons, already having been stung badly a couple of times, I no longer buy anything from Europe, EVER if there are any other alternatives.

Let's not get into politics, but Brexit is an extremely serious problem ​​​​​​for certain activities. ​


JasonB - Yup, I'm right behind you about fair remuneration for innovators. [deep sigh!]

Nicholas - Yes I am more than happy to pay for a well-made, useful piece of kit, and happy to pay rather over the odds for it, if it is innovative as well. But with the greatest respect, please can we just discuss my simple original question at the top of this thread?  

Conclusion:
Can anyone find something similar that (as per my original question) is UK-based?
I have looked quite hard but found nothing.
 

Edited By John Smith 47 on 05/01/2022 10:02:48

Tony Pratt 105/01/2022 10:00:33
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I do look forward to reading these threads from the OP they are so entertaining. smiley

Tony

John C05/01/2022 10:08:22
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Quote: 'because ARC Eurotrade appears to be based on continental Europe'...

This Arc EuroTrade? The one in Leicester, UK?:

Arc Euro Trade Ltd.
A company registered in England and Wales
Company registration number 5060731

10 Archdale Street
Syston
Leicester, LE7 1NA

The text you quote re entry charges refers to Arc posting goods to outside the UK........

JasonB05/01/2022 10:08:54
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Oh Dear you have not found your way around yet another website, why not look at ARC's Address at the bottom of their home page or click the contact tab at the top they are closer than you think.

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