Greensands | 25/12/2021 09:38:30 |
449 forum posts 72 photos | Merry Christmas all - I have just been given for repair a small portable radio which is suffering from the sticky case syndrome, not the first I have had with this problem but something I have never been able to overcome. Previously I have associated this problem with he older models but this current example is a much more recent product. Has anyone come up with a solution to this problem? |
J Hancock | 25/12/2021 09:45:35 |
869 forum posts | The 'rubber/plastic has been 'reconstructed ' into another polymer , no way back. |
Grindstone Cowboy | 25/12/2021 09:49:37 |
1160 forum posts 73 photos | I did once have remarkably good results with hand sanitiser, but it was probably just the alcohol content. Worth a try with IPA at your own risk. Merry Christmas! Rob |
Clive Foster | 25/12/2021 10:03:37 |
3630 forum posts 128 photos | I've had some, generally intermittent, success by working through the gentler solvents I have about the place. Things like neat washing up liquid, isopropyl alcohol, computer screen cleaner, foaming aerosol cleaner (RS breed in my case), sticky label remover, Jizer, Gunk, et al. Apply a little at a time on small areas and rub. If you can find the right one the results can be good for a year or so but there seems to be no lasting cure. Lots of effort for little reward. 50% success is doing well methinks. Wear disposable gloves because a seriously wrong cleaner pick will create a super sticky gunge that seriously doesn't want to wash off your fingers. I have the impression that regular use of foaming cleaner holds back the deterioration can prolong the life of a cleaning session. Letting finger sweat marks build up to the sticky stage seems to be a fatal mistake as the sticky seems to spread from such marks. Clive |
Frances IoM | 25/12/2021 10:10:49 |
1395 forum posts 30 photos | I have used surgical spirit because I have a large quantity bought cheaply pre-covid (mostly Iso-propyl) and kitchen paper to wipe off the gunge then use a slightly abrasive kitchen cleaner to remove the oily residue left by the SS but though works for a time the surface can go back to its sticky state - suspect usual Chinese trick of saving money by removal of a key plasticiser in manufacture of the plastic |
Greensands | 25/12/2021 10:13:40 |
449 forum posts 72 photos | But why on earth one wonders should this be a problem in this day and age? Surely by now manufacturers should be aware of the problem and choose a type of plastic which is free from the problem. Is it a matter of costs perhaps, design issues or just a lack of interest? Back to the mincepies........Enjoy |
Michael Gilligan | 25/12/2021 10:21:54 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Having inadvertently removed some of the matt surface layer from a Tesco Hudl tablet [ whilst attempting to remove black marks produced by a ‘protective case’ If all the gentler solvents fail … try Acetone … this stripped the layer almost instantly, to reveal the shiny plastic beneath. MichaelG. . << Proceed at your own risk >> Edited By Michael Gilligan on 25/12/2021 10:22:33 |
Nick Clarke 3 | 25/12/2021 10:22:59 |
![]() 1607 forum posts 69 photos | As a collector of film cameras this can be an issue with plastic bodied cameras from the 1970s onwards. Once it has started there is no stopping it by partially removing the soft touch layer - it will always return. The only answer seems to be removing all of the soft layer with a mild alcohol based solvent and leaving the underneath which is usually a smooth semi- gloss plastic. Unfortunately in some cases markings and indexes are screen printed on the top surface and these have now gone too.......... |
roy entwistle | 25/12/2021 10:27:13 |
1716 forum posts | Has anyone tried vinegar ? Roy |
david homer | 25/12/2021 10:32:39 |
43 forum posts | I had a radio the same, rubber going a little sticky, I rubbed some talc over the sticky bits, cured the stickiness and also smelled nice. David |
Michael Gilligan | 25/12/2021 10:49:21 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Frances IoM on 25/12/2021 10:10:49:
[…]
- suspect usual Chinese trick of saving money by removal of a key plasticiser in manufacture of the plastic
. I think you will find that plasticisers have mostly been removed for ‘Safety’ reasons, not for cost reduction. MichaelG. . Ref. https://www.satra.com/spotlight/article.php?id=432 Edited By Michael Gilligan on 25/12/2021 10:52:44 |
Michael Gilligan | 25/12/2021 11:14:40 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Michael Gilligan on 25/12/2021 10:21:54:
. Having inadvertently removed some of the matt surface layer from a Tesco Hudl tablet [ … ]
Excuse the state of it |
Ron Colvin | 25/12/2021 15:26:33 |
91 forum posts 6 photos | If you can't change the surface. Maybe just seal it in. Apply a wrap. A clear vinyl wrap, or possibly just try using cling film. |
Dick H | 25/12/2021 19:48:38 |
141 forum posts 1 photos | The soft touch coating is probably a polyurethane which breaks down with age. This* Link * (https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2012089827A1/en) describes the problem, the polyester segment hydrolyses, the molecular weight drops and you land up with a sticky mess. |
Robert B | 25/12/2021 20:06:04 |
20 forum posts 6 photos | A sticky torch was sorted using a paste of bicarbonate of soda, mixed with water. Easy and very effective. I'm told using it as paste is important. I've no idea about the chemistry. |
Michael Gilligan | 25/12/2021 20:17:07 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Good find, DH MichaelG. |
peak4 | 25/12/2021 21:04:26 |
![]() 2207 forum posts 210 photos | Posted by Michael Gilligan on 25/12/2021 10:21:54:
Having inadvertently removed some of the matt surface layer from a Tesco Hudl tablet [ whilst attempting to remove black marks produced by a ‘protective case’ If all the gentler solvents fail … try Acetone … this stripped the layer almost instantly, to reveal the shiny plastic beneath. MichaelG.. << Proceed at your own risk >> Edited By Michael Gilligan on 25/12/2021 10:22:33 Acetone would seem the most obvious, and is what I've used in the past; just make sure you wipe it off quickly, so it doesn't damage the plastic underneath. The COSHH datasheet shows this particular one to be acetone with propane & butane propellant. Bill |
Clive Hartland | 25/12/2021 22:30:33 |
![]() 2929 forum posts 41 photos | My ssmall kitchen timer has now degraded it's case, not sticky but has changed colour. I can scrape off the discoloration but there are too many small indents to do all over. |
Ady1 | 26/12/2021 09:46:30 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | The rubbery toffee fat on the tiles behind a cooker which seems almost impossible to clean off has been cleaned off this xmas with Cif So that might work You've still got to find a good way to "seal" it though The bicarbonate paste looks hopeful Edited By Ady1 on 26/12/2021 10:04:55 |
KEITH BEAUMONT | 26/12/2021 10:09:38 |
213 forum posts 54 photos | I have found several Sigma lenses in my collection to have had the "soft touch" finish go sticky.. Years ago I was given a Litre sample of an Acetone replacement called Arconate PC. It is colour and oderless and did not replace the Acetone being used. I still have the sample and tried it on the lenses and it has worked by removing the soft touch coating back to a shiny surface underneath with no damage to that surface. It was a bit messy to do, using plenty of clean tissue. I have no idea if Arconate PC is still available. Keith |
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