Clive Hartland | 06/09/2021 18:54:57 |
![]() 2929 forum posts 41 photos | A while back I upgraded to Win 10, very disappointing. basically it has completely messed up the loading of digital pics. I want to go back to Win 7. what are the pros and cons. The machine is a PC. |
Ady1 | 06/09/2021 19:03:29 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | If you do go back the way always get the pro version Always used the pro ones, currently on win 7 pro 64bit, all updates disabled for about 4 years so far |
Howard Lewis | 07/09/2021 00:10:25 |
7227 forum posts 21 photos | W7 is no longer supported. m Although from time to time, when shutting down, updates still come in. Still works quite well, (installed in march 2017 ) and shall continue using it It ain't broke so no intention to fix it; plus various adverse comments re W10 mean an up grade id even less likely. Better the devil you know and all that Howard |
Peter Greene | 07/09/2021 01:32:25 |
865 forum posts 12 photos | +1 to what Howard said. I have one installation of Win-7 and one of Win8.1 (despite some people professing to love Win-7 and hate Win8x, the latter is really only Win7 with minor updates and that admittedly 'orrible shell .... which can easily be dealt with). Tried Win10 and didn't like it. Besides which, as I understand it, at least in the Home edition, you have no choice about updates. If MS so decrees, you get updates. I like to choose mine, particularly with some updates (if you read the docs) containing residual bugs. (One update a while back said there was a "possibility" that the network card drivers would need to be re-installed and any network reconfigured if you installed that update! I didn't install it and have never noticed the loss). The thing you will likely find as time goes on is that new apps and hardware will not have drivers for earlier Windows versions such as Win7/8. Edited By Peter Greene on 07/09/2021 01:48:39 |
peak4 | 07/09/2021 01:52:13 |
![]() 2207 forum posts 210 photos | What problems are you having with digital pics? Bill |
Clive Hartland | 07/09/2021 07:58:35 |
![]() 2929 forum posts 41 photos | peak 4, basically it will not load all the pics in the camera, I get 4 or 5 and the presentation gives me a headache as i cannot for instance take a pic. to put in my ME archive. Yet, with win 7 it was all so easy. |
Circlip | 07/09/2021 08:14:37 |
1723 forum posts | Wonder when the Gates organisation are going to realise than the golden goose is getting close to expiring? Seems that when they get to achieving a reasonably stable platform we get a disruption with yet another O/S together with all the update saga. Now not only a new O/S but you need a new compuwker to run it. Sorry Bill, the goose tasted luverly and I converted its eggs to Britannias Regards Ian. Edited By Circlip on 07/09/2021 08:16:40 |
peak4 | 07/09/2021 11:15:46 |
![]() 2207 forum posts 210 photos | Posted by Clive Hartland on 07/09/2021 07:58:35:
peak 4, basically it will not load all the pics in the camera, I get 4 or 5 and the presentation gives me a headache as i cannot for instance take a pic. to put in my ME archive. Yet, with win 7 it was all so easy. Clive, I'm not quite sure what's going wrong here. Bill |
Kiwi Bloke | 07/09/2021 12:34:32 |
912 forum posts 3 photos | It's been said before - countless times. Regain control of your PC: install Linux. If you must retain Windoesn't, you can install Linux so your machine can boot into either operating system. |
SillyOldDuffer | 07/09/2021 13:23:07 |
10668 forum posts 2415 photos | Posted by peak4 on 07/09/2021 11:15:46:
Posted by Clive Hartland on 07/09/2021 07:58:35:
peak 4, basically it will not load all the pics in the camera, I get 4 or 5 and the presentation gives me a headache as i cannot for instance take a pic. to put in my ME archive. Yet, with win 7 it was all so easy. Clive, I'm not quite sure what's going wrong here. Bill Worth investigating as Bill suggests before going to the painful bother of reverting to Windows 7. As Windows 10 is supposed to handle pictures OK, and most owners are happy it does, I suspect Clive's problem is a mismatch of some sort between his older camera and it's Windows 10 driver. What's the make and model of the camera? We can check if the manufacturer has updated W10 drivers for it. Also, it sounds as if the photo manager is different, and needs changing. Possibly the camera's memory needs to be reformatted. Fingers crossed, it's an easy fix. Dave
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Clive Brown 1 | 07/09/2021 14:48:12 |
1050 forum posts 56 photos | +1 for Windows 10. I have gone through most iterations of Windows and W10 is the best so far IMO. It's stable, versatile and user friendly. I regularly download images and video either direct from my camera and 'phone via USB or via the card reader built into the PC. In either case Windows sees the device as external storage and files will transfer either way with no issues at all. Linux, I've given it a whirl. It's limited and for geeks! |
Martin Connelly | 07/09/2021 16:20:10 |
![]() 2549 forum posts 235 photos | I have no issues with Win10 either. I do have some older programs that will not run under Win10 but I have VMware to run a virtual XP machine for them (flat bed scanner for instance). I also sometimes use Hyper-V to run an XP virtual machine but file transfer between XP and Win10 is easier with VMware. VMware will save to a USB memory stick but Hyper-V will not, it has a higher level of security that prevents it from accessing USB ports. With Hyper-V I have to mount and unmount virtual hard or floppy drives to transfer files. Martin C |
Journeyman | 07/09/2021 16:22:03 |
![]() 1257 forum posts 264 photos | Posted by Clive Brown 1 on 07/09/2021 14:48:1
Linux, I've given it a whirl. It's limited and for geeks! Possibly not, according to Hosting Tribunal:-
Other statistics probably exist but even if half true that's more than a few geeks (me included) John |
Frances IoM | 07/09/2021 16:36:51 |
1395 forum posts 30 photos | John I'm afraid so much FUD (fear, uncertainty + doubt) has been spread by M/S that many actually buy into it - even our Editor. Possibly in the distant past it was true that Linux required greater knowledge and of course many with that knowledge moved once they could escape from proprietary packages and lockin but these days most Linux packages work straight out of the box and are even happy to share a machine with M/S (the reverse is however not the case) - I usually recommend Mint as the distribution very suitable for those moving from Windows but recently I've been moving my older machine to MXLinux (base is Debian 10) which has an excellent range of tools carefully chosen from the vast array and eg one being Wine fully integrated into the package - WINE allows easy running of those M/S programs that are 'essential' for the non-Linux users and cause much of the Lockin. I usually suggest they buy a cheap SSD memory eg CEX sell 128GB devices for around ?25 and swop out their hardrive (generally a trivial task) and install MXLinux from DVD or USB stick - many tutorials online. Edited By Frances IoM on 07/09/2021 16:38:17 |
Harry Wilkes | 07/09/2021 16:55:06 |
![]() 1613 forum posts 72 photos | Posted by Journeyman on 07/09/2021 16:22:03:
Posted by Clive Brown 1 on 07/09/2021 14:48:1
Linux, I've given it a whirl. It's limited and for geeks! Possibly not, according to Hosting Tribunal:-
Other statistics probably exist but even if half true that's more than a few geeks (me included) John Sorry John have to disagree moved to Linux mint March 2019 and find it very good, I use Thunderbird and Firefox without any problems but I will admit I have an old window 8 laptop which I use to maintain my clubs website as I just to lazy to move to new software. What I like most about Linux is that I turn it one and its ready to go no farting about checking for updates etc. H
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Journeyman | 07/09/2021 17:48:33 |
![]() 1257 forum posts 264 photos | Perhaps that came out wrong! I was actually trying (obviously ineptly) to point out that Linux is a widely used, stable, user friendly OS. I've been using it for years. The only application I cannot get to run on it is Alibre due in no small part to MS insisting on using DirectX. John |
Peter Greene | 07/09/2021 19:40:55 |
865 forum posts 12 photos | What was that - about half a day for this thread to be subverted to yet another Linux vs Windows peeing contest? |
Harry Wilkes | 07/09/2021 21:15:06 |
![]() 1613 forum posts 72 photos | Posted by Peter Greene on 07/09/2021 19:40:55:
What was that - about half a day for this thread to be subverted to yet another Linux vs Windows peeing contest? Just be grateful it didn't take a day H |
IanT | 07/09/2021 21:20:17 |
2147 forum posts 222 photos | Posted by Journeyman on 07/09/2021 16:22:03:
Posted by Clive Brown 1 on 07/09/2021 14:48:1
Linux, I've given it a whirl. It's limited and for geeks! Possibly not, according to Hosting Tribunal:-
Other statistics probably exist but even if half true that's more than a few geeks (me included) John Yes, I was surprised to see some of these stats - which didn't line up with other info I'd seen with regard to Cloud market share...for instance: "Combined, these SaaS vendors account for 51% of the worldwide SaaS cloud market share. Leading the way is Microsoft, with a 17% market share and impressive annual growth of 34%. Microsoft continues to gain market share, primarily due to its dominance in the high- growth collaboration segment." Just saying... Regards, IanT |
Clive Hartland | 07/09/2021 22:00:27 |
![]() 2929 forum posts 41 photos | The camera is a Panasonic TZ3, it has given no problems until Win 10. As SOD says it may well be a driver problem.
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