Cabinets

Hi every one, My Myford S7 needs a new stand, but the cost of a genuine Myford stand is a bit beyond me. I see that Chester do a range of stands at a reasonable price, has anyone installed a Myford on one of these stands or recommend an alternative, any advice would be appreciated.

Edited By Alan Gordon 4 on 11/05/2020 07:17:44

Edited By Alan Gordon 4 on 11/05/2020 07:18:44

(Secondhand) 2-drawer filing cabinets or bedside tables and a plank....

pgk

I would think if the stand is intended for a lathe of similar weight and size it should be fine. The only issue would be where the bolt holes are. Ie where they are meant to take the weight. If they are anything like the stand for my lathe they just have a flat metal plate at the top so it would not matter where the lathe feet where.

If I remember right, there is a mod for S7 for levelling blocks. If you are worried about where the S7 feet end up, you could make levelling blocks that are a bit longer/wider.

Adrian

Or put substantial rails (eg unistrut or similar) running along under the feet of the lathe bed to transfer the weight to the load bearing locations? Might interfere with sweeping out swarf and/or flow of coolant to drain points but likely that could be overcome with a little thought. Bonus is raising the height of the lathe a little as I found my Sieg C6 with supplied stand about 75-100mm too low for comfort. Put the whole stand on 75 SHS rails with rubber pads under to protect the floor as well as stop the machine from wandering.

Not sure if this helps;

I have a new Chester lathe base consists of two grey cabinets,top tray and splash back from a Crusader.

Splash back is cream colour -I think?

Cabinets still in original cardboard packing-never opened as I put lathe on a bench and it will not move from there in my lifetime!

Tray and splash back been stood in corner for 6 years so handling marks.

I think ,but not sure ,there is a suds pump in one of the cabinets.

Whats it worth- £120

BUT needs collecting from Aylesbury Bucks - can probably be loaded in car easy enough by one person as in You or ME but not both of us for obvious reasons!

Best Regards, stay safe

Pete

All the commercial lathe cabinets suck in practice. Just the degree of suckiness varies. The market won't accept the price performance ratio for good ones.

The Myford effort was, I think, designed by the father of the guy who did the section break removal process in Microsoft Word! I'm unconvinced that he actually topped daddies efforts.

Do yourself a favour and build something that works with decent, accessible, clean storage.

Used proper filing cabinets, Vickers and the other UK makes, are good. Cut down if need be to get the height right, Kitchen worktop is fine for top. Main disadvantage is that the drawers are generally over-deep. I make lift out trays to sit on the half depth sides. Two or three per drawer. If you try to use one full length one getting it out is, ahem, difficult and tends to require verbal encouragement of the unfortunate kind. Especially if well loaded.

Ex kitchen cabinets do well enough if re-worked with square tube or angle in the corners and extra cross braces under the drawers. Splash out on proper full extension slideways and re-work / build drawers to suit your needs. Cabinets can almost always be gotten on "free if you haul" terms from folk doing a refurb, probably not quite so much right now but usually if you need to go a mile its a slow week, so spend money on the bits that matter. Drawers for heavy stuff, chucks, faceplates, steadies et al are best made without sides so you can slide things out rather than lifting directly out of a recess. Junk the standard B&Q et al drawers and make your own, sides off the extra cabinets provide plenty of material to make properly strong drawers.

Much rubbish talked about the need for strong and sturdy stands for small home shop lathes. Strong & sturdy for things like Colchester, Harrison, Smart & Brown and Kerry (for a smaller example) where the stand and machine is a single structure made to be plonked down pretty much anywhere without bending. For small lathes the stand should be weaker than the the lathe bed so there is no possibility of the bed being twisted when very, very carefully bolting down. Plenty of weight and thick, non ringing, sides helps keep the noise down. Its only a support. The old makers knew what they were doing with their simple legs and stiff, drip tray, top. Not a bad idea to spend a bit of time looking at the between the wars factory made old style wooden cabinets with their cupboards and drawers or the modern equivalents made by folk skilled with the brown stuff. Even if you can't match the workmanship you can still steal the style. Not done today 'cos the cabinet would cost at least twice what the machine did.

Whilst you are at it lift the lathe up on proper support blocks. All small lathes suffer from duck syndrome with legs far too short. Lift a Myford at least 2, preferably 4, inches so you can get a slide out tray under to catch most of the swarf and a brush in to get the rest. Rapping the back of your hand on the bottom of the apron or bed whilst wielding a brush gets old fast.

If I had to do one fast adequately effective and within a budget stretch I'd get two of the narrow mechanics drawer sets from the likes of US Pro **LINK** , put one at each end and span the gap with a bit of worktop. Heck even one at headstock end and legs at the tailstock would do for now. The more economy suppliers may well be just as good but I have a US Pro one hanging off the side of my 40" Snap On box so I know its decent quality, albeit sub Snap On. Some of the ultra cheapies re-define flimsy.

Clive

Well said every one, thank you. Given what Clive says I will " enhance " my present metal bench but will go with raising blocks.

Have a look for a second hand boxford cabinet, I'm just about to repaint my mk3, the entire thing is made from 3 or 4mm plate steel, you'll probably find new ones from budget engineering suppliers are made of tin.

I bought a steel tool storage cupboard from a factory auction for £30.00 plus charges and had a 5mm top with an angled edge to retain swarf and coolant to sit on top which was bolted down. The lathe was in turn bolted through and sealed. There are three shelves inside for storage and it is solid. The electrics are bolted to the end of the cupboard and it works very well for me and it didn't cost a fortune with no vibration as i have seen with some of the flimsy supports that are supplied. Plus I added a second storage at the back for sundries and spare material.

David

Edited By David George 1 on 11/05/2020 16:13:02

Edited By David George 1 on 11/05/2020 16:14:05

I made the stands for both my ML7 and my 254 from box section. Nice and stiff. I'd echo the comments above about getting it high enough. I reckon having the cross slide handle level with your navel is about right. This is a lot higher than standard Myford, at least for me. Also make it a lot deeper than standard myford, the motor hangs over the back anyway, so you might as well have the extra storage space and stability