Which side is the thrust side.
Michael Horner | 17/06/2015 18:32:01 |
229 forum posts 63 photos | Hi I have just bought 2 Angular contact bearings 7201-2RS I can't seem to find any information on which face is the thrust face. I intend to use them as a pair so it is important they go the right way round. This variant has two rubber seals which I don't want to damage which makes a visual examination difficult. From the scant information I have found I think the side with the bearing identification on is the thrust face. So when I mount them in the spindle housing the the identificatons should face each other. Can anybody confirm theis? TIA Cheers Michael. |
Ajohnw | 17/06/2015 18:34:51 |
3631 forum posts 160 photos | No but the outer ring is usually thicker on the side that takes thrust. John - |
Bob Brown 1 | 17/06/2015 18:43:41 |
![]() 1022 forum posts 127 photos | Should be easy to work it out as the ends will have a thick and thin face
Bob |
Michael Horner | 17/06/2015 19:20:27 |
229 forum posts 63 photos |
Thank you for the prompt replies guys and the optimism! The bearing on the left has the bearing id. (front, thrust side?) the right bearing is the rear view To my eyes apart from the bearing id they look the same. I don't want to disturb the seals because they will be working in a dusty enviroment. The od is 32mm. Cheers Michael.
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Michael Gilligan | 17/06/2015 20:02:25 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Michael, Having seen the picture, I certainly understand your confusion !! Bob's diagrams look so clear, but your photo shows the reality. Common Sense would suggest that the markings should be on the outside face, so that they remain visible when installed ... but, sadly, we can't rely upon Common Sense. MichaelG. |
Douglas Johnston | 17/06/2015 20:11:59 |
![]() 814 forum posts 36 photos | Are you really sure they are angular contact bearings since they look just like ordinary ball bearings. Any true angular contact bearings I have seen can be identified by the thick/thin ends as shown above, but then again I have not seen that many. Doug |
V8Eng | 17/06/2015 20:12:53 |
1826 forum posts 1 photos | Have you tried asking the supplier for this advice? Edited By V8Eng on 17/06/2015 20:13:25 |
Douglas Johnston | 17/06/2015 20:18:44 |
![]() 814 forum posts 36 photos | Second thought, it probably is the rubber shield that has hidden the thicker side, making both sides look the same, but that does not solve your problem! Doug |
Bob Brown 1 | 17/06/2015 20:18:44 |
![]() 1022 forum posts 127 photos | I would be inclined to pop one of the seals off to look at the internals. |
Michael Horner | 17/06/2015 20:39:46 |
229 forum posts 63 photos | Hi DJ. 7201 is the code for a single row angular contact bearing. The contact angle is only 15 degrees which might explain why it doesn't have dissimilar sizes. I have had a spanner recently marked up as 8mm when it was a 7mm. I believe the country of origin is U.A.E The invoice states they are angular contact. V8. Rang them at 16:30. He said he would have to ring technical! I was hoping Ketan had his ears on, he sells these but was out of stock. He supplied the middle bit which fits very well. The above links to a pdf. The picture of the bearing has the id to the front and if I understand angular contact bearings, that is the thurst side. So in my application Michael G the writing will be on the inside because the spindle will be appling the pre-load. Thanks for your replies. Ketan is probably looking for the £3 he owes JS
Cheers Michael.
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Neil Wyatt | 17/06/2015 20:51:01 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | The inner ring on the right hand bearing looks thicker to me. As the asymmetry applies to the inner ring as well... Neil |
Michael Gilligan | 17/06/2015 20:55:11 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Michael Horner on 17/06/2015 20:39:46: ... in my application Michael G the writing will be on the inside because the spindle will be appling the pre-load. . Fair enough, Michael I'm intrigued ... Do you have a picture ? MichaelG. |
Michael Horner | 17/06/2015 21:05:04 |
229 forum posts 63 photos | Posted by Neil Wyatt on 17/06/2015 20:51:01:
The inner ring on the right hand bearing looks thicker to me. As the asymmetry applies to the inner ring as well... Neil Hi Neil Tried to measure with a digital caliper, result was inconclusive because of the curve on the inner edge. Also tried to measure the displacement of the centre bit, again inconclusive. Not good on fiddily things. Cheers Michael |
Michael Horner | 17/06/2015 21:24:03 |
229 forum posts 63 photos | ![]() Posted by Michael Horner on 17/06/2015 20:39:46: ... in my application Michael G the writing will be on the inside because the spindle will be appling the pre-load. . Fair enough, Michael I'm intrigued ... Do you have a picture ? MichaelG.
Hi Michael It is an embryonic toolpost spindle. I think the milling cutter will need to be reduced in length. If it works I might try it as a milling spindle for engraving type work. The bearings are rated to 20000 rpm. Cheers Michael |
Ketan Swali | 17/06/2015 21:27:06 |
1481 forum posts 149 photos | Hi Michael, Left work early today. What was said earlier by John W1 and Bob makes sense. I will check our stock in the morning and let you know. Our stock came in day before yesterday. They don't really make any bearings in the U.A.E....just some very powerful people with influence doing paperwork for tax reasons. They are mostly made in China and a certain extent from India. Do you have any pictures with markings on the bearings and/or packaging? Ketan at ARC. |
Michael Gilligan | 17/06/2015 21:33:19 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Michael, Thanks for the photo Hope it goes well MichaelG. |
Michael Checkley | 17/06/2015 21:59:44 |
![]() 121 forum posts 66 photos | Simplybearings has the dimensions on their website: As Neil says the dimensions on the inner race are different so you might be able to work it out from this. Mike |
Michael Horner | 17/06/2015 22:05:54 |
229 forum posts 63 photos | Posted by Ketan Swali on 17/06/2015 21:27:06:
Hi Michael, Left work early today. What was said earlier by John W1 and Bob makes sense. I will check our stock in the morning and let you know. Our stock came in day before yesterday. They don't really make any bearings in the U.A.E....just some very powerful people with influence doing paperwork for tax reasons. They are mostly made in China and a certain extent from India. Do you have any pictures with markings on the bearings and/or packaging? Ketan at ARC. Hi Ketan Best I could do. Cheers Michael.
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Michael Horner | 17/06/2015 22:11:56 |
229 forum posts 63 photos | Posted by Michael Checkley on 17/06/2015 21:59:44:
Simplybearings has the dimensions on their website: As Neil says the dimensions on the inner race are different so you might be able to work it out from this. Mike Hi Mike That's where they came from. Mine are the cheap as chips variety. Just done a measurement as per the info and there is a slight differance. Got to take the cat for a walk, I kid you not. When I get back I will see if the measurment fit in with what I think. Cheers Michael. |
Michael Horner | 17/06/2015 22:44:44 |
229 forum posts 63 photos | Hi all I have measured what I call the id side, the side with bearing number, 7201B. It is 27.96mm. This is in effect the seal od. The other side measures 28.39mm. Making the id side the thicker one and the thurst side. So in my design the two id's will face each other. Just got to make up a locking coller to trap the spring to apply a little preload, find a motor to fit then try it out! Thanks for all your help. Cheers Michael |
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