Old School | 31/05/2015 21:45:20 |
426 forum posts 40 photos | I am planning to buy an 8 inch rotary table and have a choice between a Soba or Vertex one has 3 slots on the table and the other 4. Any recommendations? |
Michael Gilligan | 31/05/2015 21:51:14 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Assuming that they are of similar quality Four Slots ... Much more versatile. MichaelG. |
John Haine | 31/05/2015 22:03:13 |
5563 forum posts 322 photos | 4 slots much better. |
Bowber | 31/05/2015 22:48:39 |
169 forum posts 24 photos | Another recomendation for 4 slots over 3. Steve |
Old School | 01/06/2015 07:14:08 |
426 forum posts 40 photos | The only advantage I can see with 3 slots is you can fit a 3 jaw chuck without an adaptor plate so no loss height. |
Michael Gilligan | 01/06/2015 08:07:36 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Old School on 01/06/2015 07:14:08:
The only advantage I can see with 3 slots is you can fit a 3 jaw chuck without an adaptor plate so no loss height. . But a three-jaw on a rotary table is heading towards 'chocolate fireguard' territory: Get a slim four-jaw with through-holes for front fixing. MichaelG. |
Vic | 01/06/2015 09:22:17 |
3453 forum posts 23 photos | The Vertex are reckoned by many to be better than most Far East RT's. Eight inch though, will you be able to lift it? |
Nigel McBurney 1 | 01/06/2015 09:25:20 |
![]() 1101 forum posts 3 photos | Go for as big a table as possible,the limits will be cost,weight,and machine size, you always run out of room for the work piece or clamping space. regarding slots, 4 is common practice,three slots would be useful for items like six spoke flywheels,it surprising how many engineering items are divided into 3 or 6, If you needed to sell it in future a 4 slot would be easier to sell. I had a French built 12 inch table which had a number of slots at 90 degrees to each other and none were radial,found it very useful,had to part with it recently as I just could not lift it (anno domini) so swapped it for an immaculate Taylor Hobson 10 inch ,a lot lighter and slimmer but superb quality, Colchester made faceplates with 6 slots and the regular plate with 4 main slots and an assortment of shorter slots, the six slot is very useful for six spoke fly wheels,nearly all traction and stationary engines with spoked flywheels had six spokes,I have never seen a rotary table with 6 slots ,again it might be better than 3 or 4, |
Old School | 03/06/2015 08:49:57 |
426 forum posts 40 photos | Posted by Michael Gilligan on 01/06/2015 08:07:36:
Posted by Old School on 01/06/2015 07:14:08:
The only advantage I can see with 3 slots is you can fit a 3 jaw chuck without an adaptor plate so no loss height. . But a three-jaw on a rotary table is heading towards 'chocolate fireguard' territory: Get a slim four-jaw with through-holes for front fixing. MichaelG. Most of the work on my existing rotary table is round, I just centre the work by moving the chuck on the table generally only a few thou. I can see the advantage of a 4 jaw chuck for some applications. |
Michael Gilligan | 03/06/2015 09:55:56 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Old School on 03/06/2015 08:49:57:
Most of the work on my existing rotary table is round, I just centre the work by moving the chuck on the table generally only a few thou. I can see the advantage of a 4 jaw chuck for some applications.
. Fair enough ... perhaps a 3 jaw is best for you. Many of my workpieces are either not round, or the RT work is not concentric with the main shape. MichaelG. |
John Stevenson | 03/06/2015 10:02:43 |
![]() 5068 forum posts 3 photos | Posted by Michael Gilligan on 01/06/2015 08:07:36:
Posted by Old School on 01/06/2015 07:14:08:
The only advantage I can see with 3 slots is you can fit a 3 jaw chuck without an adaptor plate so no loss height. . But a three-jaw on a rotary table is heading towards 'chocolate fireguard' territory: Get a slim four-jaw with through-holes for front fixing. MichaelG. .
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So do you ONLY use 4 jaw chucks on your machinery and NEVER a 3 jaw ?
Edited By John Stevenson on 03/06/2015 10:03:34 |
JasonB | 03/06/2015 10:10:08 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | "But a three-jaw on a rotary table is heading towards 'chocolate fireguard' territory:"
Could explain why all my models are just a blob on the floor, I have never used a 4 jaw on my R/T but seem to scrape by May also explain why I seem to be able to knock them out at such a rate, don't spend half my time clocking items in that are held in a 4-jaw
J PS 4 slots on my table (Soba 6" )
Edited By JasonB on 03/06/2015 10:13:51 |
John Stevenson | 03/06/2015 10:15:40 |
![]() 5068 forum posts 3 photos | Posted by JasonB on 03/06/2015 10:10:08:
"But a three-jaw on a rotary table is heading towards 'chocolate fireguard' territory:"
Could explain why all my models are just a blob on the floor, I have never used a 4 jaw on my R/T but seem to scrape by May also explain why I seem to be able to knock them out at such a rate, don't spend half my time clocking items in that are held in a 4-jaw
J PS 4 slots on my table (Soba 6" )
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ROTFLMAO
If I had to use a 4 jaw like the purists all tell us then I would be bankrupt. |
Bowber | 03/06/2015 11:07:53 |
169 forum posts 24 photos | Yes but a worn old 4 jaw is far better to a cash strapped home engineer than a worn 3 jaw, until recently I've had to get by on what I could get second hand so my rotary table has a 4 jaw on it because I'd rather take a chance on a second hand 4 jaw than a second hand 3 jaw. Steve |
Michael Gilligan | 03/06/2015 11:09:05 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by John Stevenson on 03/06/2015 10:02:43:
So do you ONLY use 4 jaw chucks on your machinery and NEVER a 3 jaw ? . 3 jaw chucks have their place, of course ... But my BCA, which has an 8" Rotary Table with four slots, has never had a 3 jaw mounted onto it. [see my comment at 09:55:56 today] A small 4 jaw mounts onto it for holding small work. It works for me ... and I was only offering my opinion. MichaelG. |
Jesse Hancock 1 | 03/06/2015 11:41:39 |
314 forum posts | I'm convinced that you should do as Michael G says and buy both. I have a three jaw and oddly most of the work I seem to want to do is rectangular. At the moment I have drilled three holes 120 degrees to be in the middle of the other slots but drilled holes don't move so I'm in danger of making it into a Polyphon disc. |
Muzzer | 03/06/2015 12:19:56 |
![]() 2904 forum posts 448 photos | If you have a Camlock spindle on your lathe (eg Bantam D1-3), a 3-slotter could be helpful if you want to make a spindle nose adaptor for your RT. Allows you to mount all your chucks on the RT (including your 4-jaw!) but is more difficult to make if you get a 4-slot RT. Ask me how I know. |
Jon | 03/06/2015 20:21:49 |
1001 forum posts 49 photos | Been running daily since 1999 a Vertex 8" with dividing plates and 3 jaw chuck. Daily hover around 60 full revs to give you some idea. Just the odd clean out and lube every two years. Good buy at the time £60 plates and £195 for Vertex shop soiled. Wish mine was 3 slot rather than 4 slot its purely a tool so drilled and tapped through chuck in to table and T slots to fix my old myford 5 1/4" Bison chuck. Its accurate and gets some stick.
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Dave Halford | 04/06/2015 12:34:32 |
2536 forum posts 24 photos | I would buy the best table (bet it's not got Soba written on it) and use an adapter plate. Simples |
Old School | 04/06/2015 13:01:44 |
426 forum posts 40 photos | Thanks for all the responses, I have bought an 8" Grafton rotary table off a well known auction site. From the pictures it looks OK the table is undamaged just missing the handles the screw in bit with a knob on, seller say good condition and can return at his cost, just have to wait and see what I get half the price of the Chinese ones. It's got 4 slots!
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