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Buzza16/07/2011 21:36:40
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Posted by Andrew Evans on 16/07/2011 20:05:31:
British industry is doing pretty well these days and producing some of the most innovative products in the world - so I dont buy this myth of the sad death of British industry, it's just changed and involved.

Yes, into foreign ownership.

David Clark 116/07/2011 22:16:25
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They did have some VMCs there.
Might be one left.
regards David
 
Geoffrey Laycock 117/07/2011 09:48:13
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Whatever the outcome it is likely a very sad weekend for the many people working with Myford in one way or another. We are all bound up in thoughts of what this means for us, let's remember them also.
 
I would like to say a big thanks to everyone at Myford who have helped me in the past.
 
I would also like to add, rather late, my condolences regarding Mr Moore snr. Been nice chatting with him on occasion. A terrible time for the family.
 
Just to indicate what a loss this is going to be, only last week, when I made my original post, I had been contacted regarding payment for two items I ordered. I needed to send a cheque as they couldn't take card payment. Incredibly quickly the items then arrived. I ordered the small Keats angle plate and adjustable chuck backstop.
 
Both are super items, with the Keats plate in the usual amazing quality box we all associate with Myford. We are going to miss them a lot!
 
Many thanks again everyone at Myford
 
Geoffrey
Carl O'Brian17/07/2011 11:02:18
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I visited the Myford Final Sale yesterday. Found a brilliant little lathe with third of the price off. Brilliant condition. BARGAIN. Bought a couple of parts to go with it yesterday however I definitely will be popping back today to buy some oil and a couple of the books that were on display. Go and have a look there is still a lot of stuff there to be bought.
David Clark 117/07/2011 12:32:18
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Hi There
Someone has asked the question:
What is the situation with the warranty on a new Myford Connoisseur that I bought a few months ago?
Also, what is the warranty situation on all the lathes sold in the sale.
Are they sold as seen with no warranty?
As you can not pay by card, you don't have the benefit of the card companies protection.
regards David
9fingers17/07/2011 12:42:21
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Sounds like there will be no Myford company there to support warranty claims for existing machines or those sold over the weekend.
 
I can't imagine any business buyer picking up the warranty responsibility without the ability to back it up with the full range of parts.
 
Bob
Ian S C17/07/2011 13:01:42
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If theres no warranty, I would be using that to bargan the price down, loking at 50% at least. Only thing is there is no time. Ian S C
NJH17/07/2011 13:07:52
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I guess Bob is right however if I had just bought a new machine I don't think I would lose too much sleep over it. This kit is built to last and is finished to a high standard. My S7 of late 90's vintage (S/H and lightly used) will see me out I'm pretty sure. Look at the number of old machines about and still running. Spares for the future? who knows we must just wait and see.
Very sad to see Myford disappear they were always very helpful and friendly when I posed even the most footlin' query. Good wishes to all the staff who have made my experiences with the company so pleasant.
 
Norman
David Clark 118/07/2011 10:55:27
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Hi There
I have spoken to Chris Dickinson of RDG this morning.
They have bought the Myford name and most of the spares as well as the rights to make the components and new lathes if they wish.
 
They will be setting up an E-commerce website to sell the spares. They estimate this will take about 3 months.
 
The really good news.
RDG will continue to sell the imported parts under the RDG label but the new Myford business will be separate and they will be having the genuine Myford spares made in the UK.
 
RDG can be contacted at
 
They will answer all emails but as you can imagine, they will be snowed under.
 
Good news all round.
regards David
 
John Stevenson19/07/2011 18:17:17
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Just got back from Myfords.
RDG did not buy all the jigs and fixtures as I was previously told by them.
They were bought with everything else by the Asset management company and because there was no buyer for them, they have all gone in a skip and down to the scrap yard.
 
Read into this what you will.
 
John S.
Chris Trice19/07/2011 18:35:17
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They seem to be rushing all this unnecessarily.
John Stevenson19/07/2011 18:59:14
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In all fairness and thinking about it the jig method of manufacture it is old school.
 
Take something like a headstock, from a casting with one machined face it probably went on 10 to 15 jigs for holes to be drilled in various locations, housings bored, hand or machined tapped and holes at angles for things like the tumbler location holes.
 
Some even put in on final assembly.
 
Today the casting would be gripped in one fixture and all the machining done on all faces by a 4 axis CNC, everything done at one setting by a multitude of different tools in the carousel.
 
The onus today is to do as much as possible without any jigs.
 
If everything is done to a high standard and most importantly high tolerances as Myfords always maintained then why did it take so many man hours to assemble a machine.
 
I know this is a demonstration video to show what the machine can do but watch this.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsmiIeAkE-o


Then imagine how many machines and jigs would be needed to make this old school.

John S.
Eric Lougheed19/07/2011 20:23:02
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Just watched that video - I'm gob-smacked! Admittedly there were many time-jumps, but it's still amazing that it can be done at all.
However, that's not at all helpful to those subscribers who are struggling just to develop the most basic engineering skills - often later in life, since only after retirement may we have the resources to devote to any sort of workshop.
The exotic and highly refined engineering shewn in the magazines is impressive, but can be discouraging . Often the amateur newcomer wants much more basic advice, demonstration and instruction.
Eric Lougheed
Tony Pratt 119/07/2011 21:45:21
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Eric,
Don't be discouraged, what you are seeing is an example of what can be done to encourage people to buy the machines, I have used these type of machines in industry but still get great pleasure turning handles on my manual lathe and milling machine..Basic engineering skills are as relevant today as they have always been!
Tony
John Stevenson19/07/2011 21:55:01
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Eric,
That video was posted not to discourage anyone but to show that a new generation of machine tools does not have to be as time consuming or intensive as they were in the past.
 
Re read my last line in the post above.
 
John S.
Bill Pudney20/07/2011 06:29:16
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"Then imagine how many machines and jigs would be needed to make this old school.

John S."
 
John S is spot on there. When I had to work for a living the place where I spent my time made some very complex parts. Some of them required up to 18 different operations and many changes from lathe to mill to the fitting bench and back again, there were inummerable small jigs and fixtures as well. All with their own inspection stages and opportunities for stuff ups. Then we got a new machine that did everything....bar stock in, finished part out, no jigs, no fixtures, one (big!) inspection stage, the machine paid itself back in under twelve months from memory. Those parts were not required in huge numbers, from memory batches of six or eight prevailed.
 
Given a robust well proven data pack (this may require several prototypes to sort out drawing issues), a workshop or workshops with the appropriate machinery there is no reason why a competent range of small/medium, widely specified lathes and maybe mills could not be made for a sensible price. The issue then is to match the design and manufacturing sophistication (and therefore the retail price) to the anticipated market.
Interesting discussion!!
cheers
Bill Pudney
Ian S C20/07/2011 11:40:01
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Just wondering, but was the downfall of Myford, and other similar industry perhaps linkedto inflexability of the workforce to change, they could have improoved there production, and reduced the price, increasing production etc etc. I was reading an article in todays news paper about the Chinese search and rescue squads, and how they are equiped with New Zealand designed, and built personal two way radio equipment, so much so that the Chistchurch company is going to set up a factory in China, as it has'nt the capacity in NZ. Ian S C
Edward Clarke20/07/2011 11:57:23
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Does anyone know if bed/saddle regrinds can be done anywhere. The Myford -Rebuild site is about the only link still on line, Is this a an error, or is it a separate company that will still be trading ?
 
Eddie
9fingers20/07/2011 12:27:25
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Eddie,
 
I have no concrete information but just a feeling in my water that something might be available in time. Wait for the dust to settle a while and keep an eye on the forums and journals.
 
Bob
David Clark 120/07/2011 12:55:14
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Hi There
Myford are no longer able to do regrinds.
Ignore the link.
It will probably disappear in time.
regards David
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