Fake Mitutoyo indicator on Ebay

Barrie is probably thinking of Winston Churchill:

“Churchill: "Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?" Socialite: "My goodness, Mr. Churchill... Well, I suppose... we would have to discuss terms, of course... "

Churchill: "Would you sleep with me for five pounds?"
Socialite: "Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!" Churchill: "Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price”

Incidentally I thought Churchill was the best Prime Minister we'd ever had until Steviegtr explained in another thread that the correct answer is actually Boris Johnson. Like Churchill, Mr Johnson is also a wit. Just before being struck down in March by Covid-19 he referred to the British effort to make more ventilators as 'Operation Last Gasp'.

Dave

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Odd that the same type of people who adore Churchill are usually the same type of people he despised.

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A used one of these was being auctioned on ebay a few days ago, i saved it my watch list, then 24 hours before it ended, i looked at in more detail pondering whether to put a bid on it, then i noticed it said 'mititogo' or something, the photo was a bit blurred, it ended up selling for £14 i think, £7.50 post, someone ended up with a used fake for 20 quid.

Yes.

Steve.

No need. Churchill never said any such thing. That old chestnut has been attributed to famous people ranging from George Bernard Shaw to Richard Hammond, none of them true. It is, if you will, the Mitutogo DTI of folktales: completely fake.

Nobody ever went broke by underestimating the public, to paraphrase H.L. Menken.

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Ah ... the joys and perils of Punctuation, and of Boolean Algebra

MichaelG.

Ask the right question and you may get the right answer.🙂

Seems neither of those options were actually chosen, in the end.

I bought this one complete about 6 months ago for £17.50 and for the money I really cant fault it.The holder works a treat and the dial mechanism is smooth and repeatable, it always returns to exactly the same position which is a good sign. I have checked it against my more expensive dial gauge and it is good throughout its range though I seldom use it for measurement but I have on a few occasions. I mainly use it for centering and setting up the 4 jaw as the easy positioning of the arms and single point locking make it quick to set up.

Got it off Ebay and it wasnt offered under any brand name and all it has on the dial is Jewelled and Made in China.

Maybe I have just been lucky but certainly good value for money.

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That’s how it should be, Ron

Honestly described, modestly priced, and meets the buyer's expectation.

The world would be a better place if everyone did their selling that way.

MichaelG.

If it's too cheap, there is normally reason!

No, it's got Mitutoyo's Item Code 513-404 as well...

But If it does what you want, it's a fine bargain.

I'm with SOD on this. I've got a 30-year-old Baty badged finger DTI that was damaged from new - that's how I got it, or it'd've gone in the bin. But I know what it does, can circumvent such faults as it has automatically, and can depend on it for my purposes - so I'd have no reason to replace it. It may be junk but it's my junk.

Maybe that's the decision the OP made - when it wasn't what it was advertised to be, he decided not to own it. That's fine, but not everyone would've thought that way.

Well spotted Mick, I didnt think of the Mitutoyo item code but at least its honest in it says made in China and doesnt have a look alike makers name (Mitetoyo) plus it wasnt advertised as a Mitutoyo.

It is a bargain at £17.50, it works fine and I found my comparison figures in my notebook from when I compared it to my dial gauge, on a couple of measurements it differed by two tenths of a thou, I dont think I will be losing any sleep over that for what I use it for.

Ron

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I’m not sure, but I don’t think that using the same numeric code would count, in Law, as “passing off”

... Consider the trouble that would cause in [for example] the electronic components supply chain.

Using a box that is clearly marked Mitutoyo [see Barrie’s example] is a very different matter though.

MichaelG.

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