I.M. OUTAHERE | 17/01/2018 12:35:53 |
1468 forum posts 3 photos | Danny those wire strippers,look like something out of a horror movie ! I'm sure i have seen something similar at my doctors surgery but i was too afraid to ask what he did with it ! Ian. |
Bazyle | 17/01/2018 14:04:49 |
![]() 6956 forum posts 229 photos | I thought the weller tips were iron and plated with Nickel. The wet sponge for cleaning the hot tip is oddly non-intuitive. I think rubber mats for soldering iron might give you static damage. |
Martin Kyte | 17/01/2018 14:42:09 |
![]() 3445 forum posts 62 photos | Weller now use Bronze swarf for tip cleaning. Martin |
daveb | 17/01/2018 16:29:32 |
631 forum posts 14 photos | Posted by Neil Wyatt on 15/01/2018 22:40:03:
Posted by Richard Marks on 15/01/2018 22:21:59:
Add a retractable scalpel to your list, good for cutting, picking, scraping and other things. Edited By Richard Marks on 15/01/2018 22:22:27 Yes, but then it would be eleven, I marginally use a needle more than a scalpel. Strictly it's a dissecting needle too Sounds like a Borrowdale needle, used in surgery, dissection, microscopy and various prodding, cutting and poking jobs.
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Neil Wyatt | 17/01/2018 18:42:27 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Posted by daveb on 17/01/2018 16:29:32:
Sounds like a Borrowdale needle, used in surgery, dissection, microscopy and various prodding, cutting and poking jobs. Never heard one called that before, I've found one reference to the name on Google. Neil
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daveb | 17/01/2018 22:20:54 |
631 forum posts 14 photos | Posted by Neil Wyatt on 17/01/2018 18:42:27:
Posted by daveb on 17/01/2018 16:29:32:
Sounds like a Borrowdale needle, used in surgery, dissection, microscopy and various prodding, cutting and poking jobs. Never heard one called that before, I've found one reference to the name on Google. Neil
I used to sell a lot of these 50 odd years ago, seem to be referred to as Dissecting needles nowadays. Daveb
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StephenS | 17/01/2018 22:44:10 |
38 forum posts | Neil What model of rework station do you have please? I have a good Weller magnastat station and a good quality solder sucker, and some solder wick. I have not ventured into smd components yet but will have to soon. Please can you explain the advantages of a rework station, what specifically is it, does it do, etc for me the uninitiated. Thanks, Stephen S.
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StephenS | 17/01/2018 22:48:57 |
38 forum posts | Posted by Geoff Theasby on 16/01/2018 02:13:11:
I've never needed a temp controlled iron, used an Antex X25 for decades. Rework gun? No. Soda-Wick is much cheaper. Geoff, Do you do smd component work with this set-up? And if so, do you find it works OK? Do you use a solder sucker at all or just solder wick? Thanks, Stephen S.
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Geoff Theasby | 18/01/2018 04:41:37 |
615 forum posts 21 photos | Hi Stephen, Yes, I use solder wick with SM components. It works fine, Ronseal should sell it. Solder suckers often have too big a nozzle, curable by fitting a Hellermann sleeve over it to improve the suction by making a better seal with the work. Geoff |
Neil Wyatt | 18/01/2018 10:19:54 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Posted by daveb on 17/01/2018 22:20:54:
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 17/01/2018 18:42:27:
Posted by daveb on 17/01/2018 16:29:32:
Sounds like a Borrowdale needle, used in surgery, dissection, microscopy and various prodding, cutting and poking jobs. Never heard one called that before, I've found one reference to the name on Google. Neil
I used to sell a lot of these 50 odd years ago, seem to be referred to as Dissecting needles nowadays. Daveb
That's what we called them when I was in school/uni at the beginning of the 80s |
Neil Wyatt | 18/01/2018 10:26:47 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Posted by StephenS on 17/01/2018 22:44:10:
Neil What model of rework station do you have please? I have a good Weller magnastat station and a good quality solder sucker, and some solder wick. I have not ventured into smd components yet but will have to soon. Please can you explain the advantages of a rework station, what specifically is it, does it do, etc for me the uninitiated. Thanks, Stephen S.
Antex. It combines a temperature controlled iron with a temperature controlled precision hot-air gun you can use to solder or lift SMT components. I've found the rework gun works well for removing connectors as well. Neil |
Danny M2Z | 18/01/2018 10:53:05 |
![]() 963 forum posts 2 photos | The Weller type soldering guns were banned from my workplace due to the ESD (electrostatic discharge) capability to damage sensitive CMOS devices,as also was solder wicking braid (it could damage pcb tracks). Given all that, they are quite adequate for home handyman use if used with care. Also, we used a carbide tipped shear nipper to cut component leads to minimise the shock travelling up the device leads. I can dig up a photo if anybody is interested as all tools used during my course were given to the students and so have been carefully preserved. One other useful trick that I learned is to cut the component leads to length after insertion into the board and tin the cut end before making the main joint. The above mentioned carbide cutter was handy for this as it left a consistent length of lead (about 1.2mm) projecting above the track. * Danny M * |
Geoff Theasby | 18/01/2018 17:27:03 |
615 forum posts 21 photos |
Secondly - pcb jig as above Tertiarily, or thirdly - heat resistant, resilie Geoff |
Geoff Theasby | 18/01/2018 17:29:28 |
615 forum posts 21 photos |
Geoff |
Neil Wyatt | 18/01/2018 19:07:41 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | These work really well for small wires up to wiring a plug: £11 on Amazon or £6 at Machine Mart. |
MW | 18/01/2018 19:13:42 |
![]() 2052 forum posts 56 photos | Very helpful thread, thanks Neil. Michael W |
StephenS | 18/01/2018 22:15:57 |
38 forum posts | Posted by Danny M2Z on 18/01/2018 10:53:05:
The Weller type soldering guns were banned from my workplace due to the ESD (electrostatic discharge) capability to damage sensitive CMOS devices,as also was solder wicking braid (it could damage pcb tracks). Given all that, they are quite adequate for home handyman use if used with care.
Danny, I presume you are referring to the soldering guns where the wire tip is part of a transformer secondary, or are you meaning the Weller magnastat irons that use the Curie point principle for temperature control ? Does anyone know if the Weller magnastat irons that use the Curie point principle for temperature control do realistically have any problems due to the switching of the element, which of course does not bother about zero-crossing as it is just a magnetically operated switch ? Do these have any ESD problems in real-life use ? Thanks, StephenS.
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Enough! | 19/01/2018 01:21:41 |
1719 forum posts 1 photos | Posted by Neil Wyatt on 18/01/2018 19:07:41:
These work really well for small wires up to wiring a plug £11 on Amazon or £6 at Machine Mart.
Don't get the heel of your hand around the back end of those if you're using the nippers. Ask me how I know. Personally I prefer the plain nippers of similar design |
Danny M2Z | 19/01/2018 03:25:45 |
![]() 963 forum posts 2 photos | Posted by StephenS on 18/01/2018 22:15:57:
Posted by Danny M2Z on 18/01/2018 10:53:05:
The Weller type soldering guns were banned from my workplace due to the ESD (electrostatic discharge) capability to damage sensitive CMOS devices,as also was solder wicking braid (it could damage pcb tracks). Given all that, they are quite adequate for home handyman use if used with care.
Danny, I presume you are referring to the soldering guns where the wire tip is part of a transformer secondary, or are you meaning the Weller magnastat irons that use the Curie point principle for temperature control ? Stephen, I am not sure what type of switching was used for the Weller soldering guns that we were prohibited from using, it was quite a few years ago. All I remember is that they had a pistol grip ,and offered 'instant heat'. I also do not remember any type of thermostatic control except the operator's trigger finger. They were quite handy for soldering up fuel tanks for my models though! My Aussie Royel soldering station came with grounding sockets so that a ground clip may be attached to sensitive devices and I can see no reason that any tool cannot be connected to ground with a flying lead from there to the ground track of the pcb being worked on. Oh yeah, for Neil's list add 'Thermal Shunts' * Danny M * |
Michael Gilligan | 19/01/2018 09:26:51 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Danny M2Z on 19/01/2018 03:25:45:
Posted by StephenS on 18/01/2018 22:15:57:
I presume you are referring to the soldering guns where the wire tip is part of a transformer secondary, or are you meaning the Weller magnastat irons that use the Curie point principle for temperature control ? Stephen, I am not sure what type of switching was used for the Weller soldering guns that we were prohibited from using, it was quite a few years ago. All I remember is that they had a pistol grip ,and offered 'instant heat'. I also do not remember any type of thermostatic control except the operator's trigger finger. . Danny, For info ... here is the other Weller [and an interesting little modification]. http://spritesmods.com/?art=wtcpled MichaelG. |
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