The death of Diesel?

Mercedes owners have been charged up to $32 a gallon for adblue in the US:

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Mike can't imagine our authorities being as prepared and proactive enough to dispense iodine tablets in the event of a nuclear incident, we seem to fail at organising basic services, our infrastructure seems to be crumbling away due to neglect.

Dave

I guess that it's a good job that we aren't dependent on your imagination then...

Aren't we......?

I can ,at least, assure you that the Emergency Plan for Hinkley Point ( in 1975) did include the distribution of

Iodine tablets to the local populace in the event of an 'incident'.

Of course, this would all be in french today.

However, eating plenty of seaweed , daily, in your diet will achieve the same result.

Mercedes owners have been charged up to $32 a gallon for adblue in the US:

They can afford it? Says $13 for 2 1/2 gallons is a better price , so a simple dealer rip off.

It may be of interest that farmers spread umpteen tonnes of urea on their fields as fertiliser.

On top of that the link tells of urea dissolved in mineralised water.  What poppycock!  Adding all sorts of solids to the exhaust gases!

Edited By not done it yet on 26/10/2017 17:09:32

Before we all get too self righteous, remember that one way of reducing CO2 and methane in the atmosphere is to stop ALL mammals (ourselves included) from breathing. Probably not acceptable!

Man has been polluting the atmosphere since Adam drew his first breath.

It's just that now, there are too many of us, using too many things that are, ultimately, fuelled by hydrocarbons.

Howard

PS For anyone who is anti diesel; think on life without it after an immediate ban. That would solve the pollution problem, and that of over population very quickly! MANY would starve, here for lack of food, and the overseas providers.

For as long as technological civilization exists, there will be pollution.

One who wants to get rid of pollution should vote for nuclear war, for some horribly lethal pandemic or for complete economic ruin of global system.

Technological advances will produce *more* pollution, not less. Such advances are always translated into more population growth and more demand. EV for example must be powered by electricity produced somewhere, usually from FF. In any case 1/3 of fossil fuel consumed by any ICE motor vehicle is burned in process of *production* of said vehicle, not in process of driving.

If you want to be as green as possible, you should struggle to maintain your *old car*, diesel, petrol, doesn't matter. Just run it. Act of buying new is an underwritting of burning of something like 3 - 6 tons of oil, even if you buy EV.

Martin

Whilst I accept that eventually we will be all driving around in electric powered cars the technology and infrastructure is not here now.

As pointed out by Martin above, that power has to be generated somewhere to replace the power generated in vehicles, which means more power stations to be built; we don't seem to be cracking on with that one, rather we seem to be shutting the ones we have, so thats not going be there ay time soon.

Plus we must have the capacity to enable all of us to charge our vehicles overnight. Then there is the additional distribution network to be installed, and all the charging points, how many per house? Minimum one, sometimes, often, more. Houses with no driveways, that rely on street parking, will need a succession of roadside charging points, rather like the old parking meters that were, plus the problem of training cables on the walkways will have to be resolved. Charging points will be needed wherever people live, not just in cities and towns. Again, that's not started yet, to my knowledge.

And in addition there needs to be a bit of a leap forward in battery technology, it's improving but we're not there yet.

There is bound to be lots that I haven't touched on but the little I have indicates a huge investment in money, resources and labour plus acceptance of the attendant disruption will be required. How much? No idea other than it will be big, big bucks, for each of us, that we all will have to pay for. And will we all be happy for that? For that will have to be paid for while we are still running about in petrol and diesel powered vehicles, unlike when these first arrived a century plus ago when people still walked, went by train or horse, and only bought into the new mode of transport when they could afford to do so. Plus the fossil fuel power stations will still be producing pollution to satisfy the new demands. A bit of 'be careful of what you wish for' maybe or perhaps?

In the meantime I'm just off out in my diesel powered car which is probably deteriorating vastly in value as I type!

As Howard intimates, there is no alternative - certainly at present.

Chris