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Martin Connelly04/03/2017 07:55:21
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Do you mean ER25 not EM25? If so you can buy one with a parallel shank that can be fitted into one of your R8 collets. This will allow you to hold a drill or cutter a little lower without extending the quill. You will also have the option of how far out you extend the ER25 collet holder within the limits of the shank length. The risk with doing this is that there may be slightly more runout at the cutting point. It has not caused me any problems. You may find that it help with access for some jobs where a smaller diameter tool holder is useful.

Martin

petro1head04/03/2017 09:15:24
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Yes ER

mechman4804/03/2017 10:15:22
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Posted by petro1head on 03/03/2017 13:24:15:
Posted by Ian Parkin on 03/03/2017 13:22:34:

Make sure that your handles on each end of the x axis are tight as they set the backlash...or in your case the power drive fitting at one end

Ah right, many thanks, will have a look


​FWIW... Also check that the hand wheel boss doesn't bind against the end brg bracket when backlash is adjusted; on my WM 16 I had to machine the hand wheel boss OD / depth approx 1mm back to allow the boss to press against the bearing race as opposed to it pressing against the bracket, giving the impression that the leadscrew is binding, I was getting a tightness when turning the hand wheel one way & I thought it was the leadscrew, it was the hand wheel boss butting up against the bracket,the simple bit of machining to the boss improved the action no end.

George.

Tony Marshall04/03/2017 10:31:35
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Echo: SHCS??

I have been the happy owner of the smaller sibling, WM16, for several years with no serious issues.

On mine the bellows limit the downward travel of the head. The quill handles can also get in the way and I sometimes need to unscrew one or more of the spokes.

Also, the x-axis locking screw handles can foul the front of the y-axis dovetail and bend the screw. Sheer carelessness on my part.

I never managed to eliminate all the backlash, but I didn't try too hard. Since fitting a DRO that problem has become somewhat academic.

Wish I had fitted a power-feed though.

Cheers, Tony.

petro1head04/03/2017 10:51:38
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Posted by mechman48 on 04/03/2017 10:15:22:
Posted by petro1head on 03/03/2017 13:24:15:
Posted by Ian Parkin on 03/03/2017 13:22:34:

Make sure that your handles on each end of the x axis are tight as they set the backlash...or in your case the power drive fitting at one end

Ah right, many thanks, will have a look


​FWIW... Also check that the hand wheel boss doesn't bind against the end brg bracket when backlash is adjusted; on my WM 16 I had to machine the hand wheel boss OD / depth approx 1mm back to allow the boss to press against the bearing race as opposed to it pressing against the bracket, giving the impression that the leadscrew is binding, I was getting a tightness when turning the hand wheel one way & I thought it was the leadscrew, it was the hand wheel boss butting up against the bracket,the simple bit of machining to the boss improved the action no end.

George.

 

Yes that was happening so added a washer

Posted by Tony Marshall on 04/03/2017 10:31:35:

Echo: SHCS??

I have been the happy owner of the smaller sibling, WM16, for several years with no serious issues.

On mine the bellows limit the downward travel of the head. The quill handles can also get in the way and I sometimes need to unscrew one or more of the spokes.

Also, the x-axis locking screw handles can foul the front of the y-axis dovetail and bend the screw. Sheer carelessness on my part.

I never managed to eliminate all the backlash, but I didn't try too hard. Since fitting a DRO that problem has become somewhat academic.

Wish I had fitted a power-feed though.

Cheers, Tony.

I had wondered about the bellow and was set on removing them however they were not completely squashed. I can only assume thst the gas ram, inside the column, is at its max compression. Been trying to thing of a way or sorting but nothing comes to mind so I recon I will just have to work around it

Agreed re the DRO, however it would be nice but have played with the screws etc and there is still some

BTW a big thanks to Warco, I rang yesterday as one of the wheel handles was missing. It arrived this morning

Edited By petro1head on 04/03/2017 11:00:09

Edited By JasonB on 04/03/2017 13:12:34

JasonB04/03/2017 13:14:38
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WM16 DRO question moved to here

petro1head04/03/2017 14:55:34
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I am thinking about buying a Milling Collet Chuck Set with 6 Collets​, should I go ER25 or ER32

mechman4804/03/2017 15:02:44
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I have the ER 25 set which only goes up to 16 mm capacity; go for the ER32, you then have up to 20mm capacity when you want it.

George.

petro1head04/03/2017 15:06:44
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Posted by mechman48 on 04/03/2017 15:02:44:

I have the ER 25 set which only goes up to 16 mm capacity; go for the ER32, you then have up to 20mm capacity when you want it.

George.

Yeh thats what I was thinking also the smallest shanked cutter I have, is 6mm and thats for a 2mm cutter, can't me ever needed a 1mm cutter, not for car work   Is it worth getting a ER Collet Nuts with Ball Bearing

So looks like I will have some R8 collets for sale

Edited By petro1head on 04/03/2017 15:13:19

Thor 🇳🇴04/03/2017 16:14:00
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I have ARC's Ball Bearing ER nuts for my ER 16 and ER 32 collet chucks, I am very pleased with them so far.

Thor

Tony Marshall04/03/2017 16:25:20
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I also got the ER25 set and now think that the ER32 would have been better but mainly because I have MT2 on both the mill and the lathe and having the option to hold > 16mm stock would be nice. FWIW I have cutters larger thatn 16mm but with 16mm shanks.

Neil Wyatt04/03/2017 16:36:57
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Rather than a parallel shank ER collet holder you can get ones with R8 shanks which would probably be better.

Neil

JasonB04/03/2017 16:52:55
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Given the size of the mill I would go with ER32 on an R8 shank - one less item to give runout issues. Ball bearing nut.

Don't be in a hurry to get rid of the R8 collets they will come in handy when you run low on room under the quill or if you are using the same size ER collet to hold some work as the size of cutter you want to use.

petro1head04/03/2017 17:48:51
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 04/03/2017 16:36:57:

Rather than a parallel shank ER collet holder you can get ones with R8 shanks which would probably be better.

Neil

Thats what I am getting

mechman4804/03/2017 18:14:33
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Edited By mechman48 on 04/03/2017 18:17:39

mechman4804/03/2017 18:21:08
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Posted by Thor on 04/03/2017 16:14:00:

I have ARC's Ball Bearing ER nuts for my ER 16 and ER 32 collet chucks, I am very pleased with them so far.

Thor

Me too, easier grip, easier unfastening, also got ... 1.0 - 2.5 mm collets & 1/8 - 1/4 imperial collets... just so I have them... in case...

**LINK**

George.

petro1head06/03/2017 17:53:23
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Neil Wyatt06/03/2017 18:30:10
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Oh no, another seasickness video!

Neil

JasonB06/03/2017 18:38:18
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I thought you would be reaching for your sick bag Neilsmile p

mechman4806/03/2017 18:38:57
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Ooooh! are you climb milling with your new machine? difficult to see with the waves 'n all that ...face 18

George.

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