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Moving the subject slightly

I believe modern encryption methods use a key and trap door technique that has been around for about 20 years. The inventors, Californian wizz-kids, got a lot of publicity at the time particularly as the code was absolutely secure (all codes are said to be absolutely secure). Then it was found that the method was already known and an inventor lived in Britain. Again with some publicity the Californians met the British gentleman at Kemble railway station in Gloucestershire. That is the story.

Kemble is about 20 miles from GCHQ at Cheltenham and on the same railway line to London. Are you going to tell these modern encryption techniques are secure?

[addition] I am sure by just writing GCHQ makes me visible to them.

JA

Edited By JA on 17/12/2016 11:47:43

Buy £10 worth of bitcoin and see for yourself.

Seven years after launch and under constant attack from hackers, the encryption has proved impervious.

Martin.

Ah ! you mean you became a " leader"

Clever move

Nah, just a moving target.

If our government feels the need to spy on people to keep myself & my family safe from the murderers who abound this world of ours that's fine by me!

Tony

What annoys me is I have not given my permission to use data that belongs to me to anyone and yet by foul means they take my personal i fo and use it to make money for themselves, I am fed up with these people who think they can do anything they please, smacks of the 3rd reich, and yes I as an x serviceman who done my job in Malaya and the Falklands and a short trip to Northern Ireland and these people send the plebs like me to further their ambitions while tbey sit on their arses and order their next drink and work out how to prosecute people fo clearing their s$'t up

IT maybe unacceptable on this forum but I am angry about all this and I shall have my say

Mick h take to the steets

There is a lot of difference between hackers and GCHQ. The latter would not tell you they had hacked anything and would not leave a trail. Their employees are far better qualified than the average hacker. OK lots of governments employ hackers and may have used them against other but they don't admit it. The palaver in the press and the USA is an example. An even better one was the destruction of the Iranian uranium enrichment programme.

If you have hacked a secure system, broken a code, the last thing you do is to tell everyone. Back in the 1920s the Government used to announce to a great fanfare in the press that they had broken the Russian codes. Eventually the Russians started using a one page random letter system and then the code breakers did not read anything.

JA

Edited By JA on 17/12/2016 12:32:45

No with respect lets not move this subject slightly lets work from the position that the authorities just tak e the p'' ss and walk all over us, my sevice career of 25 years ended up with me in an alcohol unit cus I couldn't cope that don' t make me a bad person I just couldn't cope I am a regular human being but I am fed up with my apparent betters riding roughshot over me and the rank and file of this country and I am going to say it " Release Royal Marine A"

Mick h

Rather longer ago than that; trapdoor functions were suggested for use in cryptography in the 1970s. They were certainly around when I was looking at using encryption techniques for use in coding signals for pulse compression radar in the early 1980s.

Trapdoor encryption is not unbreakable, but the intention is to make it so time consuming that any information contained in the message is worthless by the time the trapdoor has been opened.

As it turned out encryption codes for use in pulse compression radar turned out to be useless; which I could have foreseen had I thought about the problem a bit harder in the first place.

Andrew

Thought bitcoin was hacked with much money disappeared not to be traced?

Bitcoin has been stolen a fair few times, just like anything else. What has never happened is the breaking of the cryptography that secures it.

Bitcoin has always been stolen by the purchaser either entrusting their passwords to others ( usually exchanges, which get hacked ), or by being lax with the privacy of their passwords, but never by a deficiency in the Bitcoin system itself.

The rise in its price for most of this year ( trading @ about £630 or US$788 ) as I write this ) is almost certainly due to the increased confidence people have in it - you only need to look to see what's happening in Venezuela and India to understand why their populations use it as a store of value that cannot be confiscated.

Martin.

Presumably that's why the lad who hacked TalkTalk asked to be paid off in Bitcoin

Neil

I amsure people find this forum informative, I have decided it is not for me for a number of reasons, eg if you ain' t part of the hardcore posters generally any input it generally ignored, there are a few inspector meticulous's around, not to mention people whose production rate exceeds anything a mere mortal can achieve, i always end up feeling quite inadequate and my thanks to those that have helped but I shall now retreat into my workshop and bumble on

Mick h

Absolutely you are not a bad person Mick. You should be proud of your ability to talk about the problems you faced on leaving the Services. You are not alone - bad things happening to ex-servicemen and women is far too common. There is more awareness these days (Help for Heroes etc.), but I'm sure much more could be done.

Meantime, don't let the b******ds grind you down - have fun in your workshop.

Best wishes,

Dave

I agree with your sentiments, although something is only a blockchain if it is run & secured on a decentralised network of computers outside of any authority - otherwise it's just a database. The only reason a group of disconnected parties would do such a thing is for some kind of reward like bitcoin.

The micro-payments are sure to come - it's still early stages, but when things take off it'll be the biggest & most beneficial thing to happen in our lifetimes.

Martin.

I'm not sure where it went but there was a thread about Duckduckgo round here somewhere. Yes I use it, and have been very happy with it. I'm less happy with Firefox these days, as it seems to crash with depressing regularity. I've not heard of Pale Moon, but it sounds worth taking a look at.

George

Odhu ntinggo!

George

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Thanks, George

MichaelG.

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I did say, in my opening post, "Rants & Conspiracy Theories are welcome."

To " silly old duffer" -- thank you

Mick h

The evidence leads me to think that the spies and the murderers are the same organisation.

Martin.