Advertising for paid work

I do not know Mark from Adam. (just wanted to clarify this) But I think people need to remember what his post said and he was quite emphatic that he was offering his services for Model Engineers and not for commercial enterprise. There is a distinction. I realise it may be a subtle one but not insignificant, especially cost wise.

Also, it appears to me that the chap had over a hundred posts on this forum so not a one off spammer. I remember quite clearly one person posting on here seven or more times and each and every one of those posts was to promote a machinery moving service? Why was that not censored?

I realise that there must be a bit of censure regarding commercial posts and people pay to advertise on here. But I believe the chap was genuinely trying to offer a "micro service".

That's my view on it for what it's worth and because I believe that I can see both sides quite clearly I am sticking with my views.

graham.

Where are they then?

OK back.

Firstly I am on about 5 or 6 forums that are based round home workshops. Non of the owned / moderated forum's allow advertising. Usually it's the other posters who make the person aware they are transgressing. Over on Practical Machinist you get get banned, no argument gone, Don is like that.

HSM has a no advertising policy clearly stated in every sub forum, one warning and then you are out on your ear.

There had already been one on the first page of the 3D Printing thread, a newbie with one post, bit obvious that, and Jason jumped on it but no one picked that up ?

There is no moderator forum out of sight of the rest, we have something far more technical, we email each other but seeing as Diane is busy and doesn't want to be bothered with handbag fights she leaves it up to the rest of us.

I don't know about Jason but I have far more to do than hold hands, sort handbags out and clean up hair curlers.

I siad this the other day and some miight have thought i was joking but i wasn't.

Out of the forums I am on this is the worst for bitching back biting and generally doing anything but anything useful.

According to the admin site and it's not my place to release figures but we have well in excess of 10,000 member on this forum but the forum is being run by about 10 individuals to the detriment of the rest of the users, quite a few even admit they don't buy the mags or subscribe !!

So WTF are you even doing here ???????

I speak to a lot of people in this game, mostly newbies, in fact that's why I'm late in tonight as i have been training a guy up and without fail, this guy included they are put off posting by the elitist attitude on this forum.

Now one of the posters the other day even accused the management of being elitist not realising he was one of the people putting beginners off this site.

Don't believe me / Go over to the HSM forum and take a look at the subjects being discussed at present.

Now everyone is going to be up in arms over this post, to be honest i don't give a rat's arse, at present I have more on my mind that trying to chaperone a bunch of old ladies at the wrong time of the month.

From above:

Among other inflammatory remarks......

(Impolite)
"Now everyone is going to be up in arms over this post, to be honest i don't give a rat's arse, "

(Sexist and condescending)
"at present I have more on my mind that trying to chaperone a bunch of old ladies at the wrong time of the month."

Regards
john

Well said.

I do feel Mark may also have been a bit peeved as there was another post offering a similar service in the 3D thread that got missed by the mods, this has also been deleted and a quick PM sent to the poster.

For those that said they would welcome such a service they can now find details in the classifieds.

As for what JS says, I have to agree to some extent and that is one of the reasons I started the "what did you do today" threads. It would be nice to see a few others posting there rather than the regular half dozen or so, better still start your own build thread and prove JS wrong and that you do actually get out in the workshop which is where I'm heading right now

nemo

I do.

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Then I retract my previous answer.

MichaelG.

Never having had an engineering drawing in Latin but, and I kid you not, some of the early Leyland Beaver wiring diagrams were inscribed in Latin ?? I'm assuming as I just cannot be bothered playing childish games that it's a put down.

Do I take it that Micheal Gilligan is building a submarine ??

Anyway thank you for all the emails and PM's I'm obviously nearer the mark than I thought.

Anyway taking a leaf from Jasons book I'm off into the shop now it's got up to a comfortable 35 degrees and going to get the new lathe that i have had for over 6 months into place and modified to suit how I work - my lathe.

I shall post this up later tonight in the what did you do thread.

Anyone of a delicate disposition or a member of the flat earth society should be warned you need to be sitting down. Now where did I put that 7" angle grinder ?

What's a cartoon fish got to do with it anyway

Forgot about that one, I was thinking of the steam punk submarine just to try and keep it on track for this forum.

Something else i forgot was when reading the emails i had to go back as it looked like I had two identical emails but no they were from two different guys and nearly word perfect copies.

Basic jist was they very rarely posted because they had been steam rollered in the past when posting, they went over to HSM, didn't know it was there, and liked what they saw, so this forum is the worse off.

Right off to Weatherspoons for me brecky, £2.69 full english, toast and bottomless coffee, then in the shop.

That'll do me for the day now.

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Just for info.

Both of those names were, I believe, chosen because of the meaning of the Latin word.

... and I would say that Michael Williams' question was precisely on topic for this thread.

MichaelG.

Well Micheal if management want to remove me that's up to them, as I said before I don't give a rats arse.

Now if you want to take the job over, shout up, it will be easy as you will only have 10 members.

Brecky calls - hold the replys.

May I clarify then, just to be sure?

As an individual, I can advertise in the free classifieds paid services to hobby model engineers be it cad work, machine work etc.

I guess that would make me part time self employed as it would be taxable income over and above my normal day job.

So long as I am not a ltd company.

Thanks

Nigel

Nigel I think this does need a bit more clarrification from the powers that be. I say this because there are small paid for adverts in the mag for people taking on engineering work who I suspect are retired and using it as pocket money (though as you say taxable) . So why should they have to pay for an advert if others can do it for free in the classifieds.

Diane, Neil can you look into this and give a definitive answer

Probably OT, but if you want to see what happens when a web site gets out of control, well its happened twice actually, the Stirling Engine Forum has over the last few years, collapsed due to scammers taking over, last time, I logged(about a year ago I think), and there was a page of threads, by the time I had alerted the management, there was another page and a half. But these adds were not for Stirling Engines, or anything related, they where for shoes handbags, jewellery ,kitchens, and many more irrelevent bits of junk. I think the site over there is a lower tech type of operation than here. Ian S C

In the past I have recommended to other forum members suppliers of services not included in the paid for adverts on the site. For example (without mentioning names) a person who supplies inverters, two guys who offer a repair and refurbishment service for Myford lathes, a man who makes graduated hand wheel dials etc.

Am I wrong in recommending these very useful suppliers, who make their living from their services, to other forum members?

Eric

Eric I see nothing whrong in what you do, I do it myself. Provided you have no connection with teh company its fine, a lot of people wil add "Usual disclainer" which basically says the same thing.

J

The Artsoft Mach 3 site has a special thread for Forum members to advertise in (As long as it is not competing software to Mach 3). It has been there for as long as I can remember and appears to work well.

The same idea could be applied to this site for individuals (Only) not manufacturing businesses wholesalers or importers of ready made goods and retailers.

Exclusively for the use of known forum members who have contributed over say 6 months and are hobbyists working from a home shed who make small items for sale or offer services for example CAD or engineering services making small parts.

Maybe the posts could be pre vetted before appearing by the moderators. Although it should not be necessary; this is a lively forum. I am pretty sure malefactors will be quickly binned.

Regards
John