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Mike Joseph21/05/2020 19:23:35
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A good mate said to me once about the carpers: 'Just ask them what they have made recently'

Usually works.

Sometime ago I posted a query about getting water up a hill to a hospital in a 3rd World country and was overwelmed by the thoughtfulness and helpfulness of the replies - over 50 of them!

Don't give up, there are a lot of good [people out there.

Mike

Rod Renshaw21/05/2020 21:10:22
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Hi all

I like this forum for the range of threads, questions and discussions which come up. There seem to be less idiots, personal detractors and ego trippers on here than most forums, and most users seem to be trying to learn or trying to assist or inform.

I am sometimes amused or amazed by the specialist expertise of some of the contributors. I can't think of an example at the moment but sometimes there is a question or situation which is a little unusual and various contributors have a go at answering or guessing from general engineering knowledge - and then someone comes along and really spells it out from what is clearly a deep and expert knowledge of just that particular field. It's like a sporting event where a "dark horse" just appears and laps the field. And we all learn a lot more about the subject.

And the ego trippers and general grousers, the thin-skinned and the (think they) know-it-alls just have to be ignored. If we don't rise to them perhaps thay will go away and play elsewhere.

Rod

Neil Wyatt21/05/2020 22:54:35
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It is a fair point that we sometimes get videos linked to that show poor machining practice.

What I find out about that one of Steve Jordan's is he spends some time saying how dangerous it is to machine a long workpiece without a steady and then proceeds to ignore his own advice, drilling and boring it out without any support.

I do think he probably wasn't pushing too hard, but a beginner might well set to work with higher speeds or deeper cuts and come to grief. So I think it was fair to draw attention to that point as the inexperienced do rely on such videos for guidance.

Neil

(I haven't made any videos of me doing such things, but I do write articles and books for beginners and try to instil some sense about safety without treating people like idiots).

Enough!22/05/2020 00:56:55
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Posted by Dave Halford on 21/05/2020 13:52:31:

At the bottom of each post there's a link titled 'ignore member' all you have to do is use it. and you'll never see a post from them ever again.

 

... except every time they are quoted.

Edited By Bandersnatch on 22/05/2020 01:15:53

Pete.22/05/2020 01:18:41
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A while back, a guy who used to post on this site, wanted to buy something from me I was selling on ebay, he kept sending msgs asking to buy it at half the price listed, I refused, so he knew I also used this site, he sent a msg threw ebay basically saying he was going to stalk me, and posted threads on this site making subtle jabs at what I selling.

The guy was like maybe twice my age, probably late 60's, and was behaving like a childish troll because he couldn't get what he wanted, you just need to accept some people are unpleasant and were not lucky enough to have parents that taught them manners.

Michael Gilligan22/05/2020 08:17:10
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Posted by Pete. on 22/05/2020 01:18:41:

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you just need to accept some people are unpleasant and were not lucky enough to have parents that taught them manners.

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Well-said, Pete

That gets my vote as “Thought for the Day”

MichaelG.

Andrew Johnston22/05/2020 09:14:29
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Posted by Mike Joseph on 21/05/2020 19:23:35:

A good mate said to me once about the carpers: 'Just ask them what they have made recently'

Here's what I did recently, a completely new design of regulator based on fullsize rather than the drawings:

regulator.jpg

How about you Mike, what did you do? smile

Andrew

Mike Joseph22/05/2020 09:27:31
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Posted by Andrew Johnston on 22/05/2020 09:14:29:
Posted by Mike Joseph on 21/05/2020 19:23:35:

A good mate said to me once about the carpers: 'Just ask them what they have made recently'

Here's what I did recently, a completely new design of regulator based on fullsize rather than the drawings:

How about you Mike, what did you do? smile

Andrew

Have replaced a split pin(!) on my Kennedy saw frame with turned pin, then repaired it when crank fell off(!!), added a no volt release switch and microswitch to turn it off when the cut finishes. Then made a sort of horizontal drill fixture for a model boat I am building, re-arranged workshop, turned and fitted registers for my telescope (small cups fixed to patio for the legs) and started to learn Latin for the first time since school 50 years ago. Sorted out a glory-hole of bits.

Next?

Mike

Mike Joseph22/05/2020 09:32:57
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Oh, and I forgot to say that I have also fitted a new geared motor drive to the traverser of my model railway (Sarum Road) ready for a now cancelled exhibition.

Mike

Andrew Johnston22/05/2020 09:54:00
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No pictures?

Andrew

Mike Joseph22/05/2020 16:15:47
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Ok - some piccies:

new spindle.jpg

New Kennedy pivot spindle

kennedy microswitch.jpg microswitch actuating arm.jpg

Kennedy micrswitch and actuating arm

(I use a large pet litter tray - previously unused(!) as a suds tray).

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Drilling propshaft hole

latin.jpg

Latin lesson

...TBC

Mike Joseph22/05/2020 16:18:56
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and now for something completely different:

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New traverser power on Sarum Road

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Clearish work bench

vice jaws.jpg

Finally new vice jaws.

And, of course, finally, the gardening, DIY jobs and so on...smiley


Mark Rand22/05/2020 20:58:17
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I like the workbench. I'm pretty sure that I had one like that once. laugh

Neil Wyatt22/05/2020 21:26:13
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Posted by Pete. on 22/05/2020 01:18:41:

A while back, a guy who used to post on this site, wanted to buy something from me I was selling on ebay, he kept sending msgs asking to buy it at half the price listed, I refused, so he knew I also used this site, he sent a msg threw ebay basically saying he was going to stalk me, and posted threads on this site making subtle jabs at what I selling.

The guy was like maybe twice my age, probably late 60's, and was behaving like a childish troll because he couldn't get what he wanted, you just need to accept some people are unpleasant and were not lucky enough to have parents that taught them manners.

You should have reported him to a moderator, on face value that would have led to a ban.

Neil

Nicholas Farr22/05/2020 21:45:47
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Posted by Daniel on 21/05/2020 17:35:11:

A phrase has evolved into common parlance, in our household, of late.

"I saw it on the internet, so it must be true."

Attributed,to any piece of information of doubtful veracity and/or origin.

yes

ATB,

Daniel

Hi Daniel, well I'm a Farr out guy, pleeeeease! believe me. wink 2

Regards Nick.

Nicholas Farr22/05/2020 21:47:55
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 22/05/2020 08:17:10:
Posted by Pete. on 22/05/2020 01:18:41:

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you just need to accept some people are unpleasant and were not lucky enough to have parents that taught them manners.

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Well-said, Pete

That gets my vote as “Thought for the Day”

MichaelG.

Hi, plus one for both.

Regards Nick.

Nigel Graham 222/05/2020 22:35:13
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Andrew Johnston -

Fine work, it quality giving me a certain tinge of the green I've just painted my new workshop hoist frame.

Good to see that extra point of making a detail fitting true to original - though I am a bit puzzled by the bronze fitting in the middle. Whistle or simpling-valve control?

However, my point is that your engine reminds me of my examining a 3 or 4 -inch scale traction-engine at a major exhibition a few years ago. Some bloke alongside me complained to his mate, who agreed with him, that some detail was all wrong, etc. etc. Now, I was not familiar with the particular engine so would not have spotted that, and it was likely to a published design anyway.

Instead, what I did spot was a machine very much faithful to its original even if with the odd detail ' wrong '; and not in show-room condition but carrying the soot-lined chimney and patina of an engine clearly well-built, well-loved and well-used. Proof to me that the engine was well enough made to look right and work properly.

I did wonder what either of those critics had on display....

Andrew Johnston23/05/2020 07:01:00
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Posted by Mike Joseph on 22/05/2020 16:15:47:

Ok - some piccies:

..............

Latin lesson

Thanks for the pictures; that's a fair range of activities, but you can keep the Latin! Whatever else I may be good at I have zero ability for languages.

Andrew

Andrew Johnston23/05/2020 07:11:39
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Posted by Nigel Graham 2 on 22/05/2020 22:35:13:

....though I am a bit puzzled by the bronze fitting in the middle. Whistle or simpling-valve control?

Neither; it's what I call a 'singling' button. It operates a valve that lets steam from the regulator pass directly to the low pressure valve chest. It's not a simpling valve as the valve is external to the cylinder and does not divert the HP exhaust to the chimney. But neither is it a starting valve as the engine is a single crank compound so both pistons are on dead centre at the same time. It allows the engine to operate as a single, but using the low pressure cylinder with high pressure steam. So in theory the engine should produce more torque.

I've got no time for rivet counters. On the plus side it seems like every engine that Burrell made is different so it's difficult to say what was original and what wasn't.

Andrew

Mike Poole23/05/2020 07:56:28
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I expect the traction’s engines running today are a bit like Triggers broom.

Mike

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