Johnboy25 | 09/04/2018 15:50:55 |
![]() 260 forum posts 3 photos | I’d better rush out to get some H2SO4 before it unobtainable.... Better take my safety specs and arm length rubber gloves - this stuff is 91% conc. it sez on the label.🙂 John |
Johnboy25 | 09/04/2018 15:50:55 |
![]() 260 forum posts 3 photos | Multiple posting - again! Please ignore. 😳 Edited By Johnboy25 on 09/04/2018 15:55:37 |
Martin Kyte | 09/04/2018 16:21:01 |
![]() 3445 forum posts 62 photos | So what's wrong with Dry salts then as an alternative. I suspect that Sulphuric acid (diluted from concentrated) was always used because of it's availability rather than it's efficacy. GLR have been selling dry salts for years as it's simpler and safer to ship. regards Martin
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Monoman | 09/04/2018 16:56:35 |
51 forum posts 7 photos | That rather depends on what you mean by 'Dry Salts. Assuming you mean GLR kennions I can only find Dry Acid Pickling Crystals. A toatlly unsatisfactory description. No indication of what acid or concentration. It may contain substances not complying with REACH. Who can tell? |
duncan webster | 10/04/2018 00:12:23 |
5307 forum posts 83 photos | copied from a post in 2009 The "dry salts" I use are termed safety pickle - commonly sold into the jewellery trade, the composition portion of the data sheet reads:-
"Sodium hydrogen sulphate (a modified salt based predominantly on sodium bisulphate). The product is not corrosive if kept dry but in damp or wet conditions it readily absorbs water, forming an acidic liquid which is mildly corrosive when in contact with skin, eyes or by ingestion or inhalation."
One common source of the main component is swimming pool consumable suppliers - it is used to lower the ph ! (ph down is one brand name).
I've no idea what it all means. I suspect that sodium hydrogen sulphate might be what we called sodium bisulphate in my youth NsHSO4
Edited By duncan webster on 10/04/2018 00:12:45 Edited By duncan webster on 10/04/2018 00:13:09 |
Jon | 10/04/2018 21:51:20 |
1001 forum posts 49 photos | It also means the ban in effect of home or cottage industry blacking, plating, anodising etc without appropriate licence. |
Roderick Jenkins | 10/04/2018 22:29:20 |
![]() 2376 forum posts 800 photos | We can probably manage with 15%. Rod |
Bill Phinn | 10/04/2018 23:59:59 |
1076 forum posts 129 photos | I come from a jewellery making background and for many years have used "safety pickle" in place of sulphuric acid. It's not quite as effective as the "unsafe" alternative, no, but when used at the right concentration and heated in a slow cooker or dedicated "pickle pot" it is still very effective at removing flux residues and oxidation from brass, bronze, copper, silver and gold after brazing. One bonus besides the safety is it isn't so effective at leaving holes in your carpets and clothing when it splashes where it shouldn't. |
David Taylor | 12/04/2018 02:03:48 |
![]() 144 forum posts 39 photos | I use phosphoric acid. It works well and I can buy it from a hardware store in Australia. Not sure what it's intended use is but I think it is used for rust prevention too. |
fizzy | 12/04/2018 09:18:43 |
![]() 1860 forum posts 121 photos | NaHSO4 works well if you keep it warm, but that means leaving the power on in the workshop all night which im not keen on, when it cools it forms a crystaline structure in the bottom of the tank. |
Brian H | 12/04/2018 10:17:46 |
![]() 2312 forum posts 112 photos | I note that there is no suphuric acid for sale on ebay but battery acid (which is sulphuric) is, at 31% to 37%. Amazon seem to be happy to sell sulphuric though. I've always used about 10% because it is not too aggressive. Brian |
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