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_Paul_04/02/2014 07:58:13
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Is Sir John's wonderful site having problems this morning? trying to access the page I get this:

"This domain name has been reserved for future use"

Paul

 

Please note: I changed the title of this thread as it was a url. Readers might have been reluctant to click on it just in case it took them somewhere they didn't want to go.
Diane

Edited By Diane Carney on 04/02/2014 10:58:24

Trevorh04/02/2014 08:27:20
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Works fine for me

cheers

ASF04/02/2014 08:29:32
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ok for me as well yes

RJW04/02/2014 08:49:26
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I just tried it and the homepage was flagged up as a phishing site, make of it what you will!:

Adguard has blocked access to this page

This web page at www.homeworkshop.org.uk, has been reported as a phishing page and has been blocked based on your security preferences.

Adguard has found that this page may be a forgery or imitation of another website, designed to trick users into sharing personal or financial information. Entering any personal information on this page may result in identity theft or other abuse.

John Stevenson04/02/2014 09:09:44
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Checked it this end lads and can't find anything.

Just updated it with a couple of absolute bargains amongst the others.

Don't all rush at once.

RJW04/02/2014 09:15:00
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It exists as I reported it and has been flagged up by the site owners under the 'Adverts' tab, they're aware of it and plenty of users must have reported it for the site to be flagged up by security programmes!

Suggest some of you take a close look at the security you have running in your browsers, phishing attacks on sites these days make a bogus page dead ringers for the real thing!

Ignore it at your peril, it's your money or identity at risk!

They've also posted up the following warning on the site (accessed via another browser):

John

Warning: Scams

Details:
Well there are back targeting the members who use this site. We can not give out the details that we are given but by all means you can share them between yourselves.
Unfortunately we cannot do anything about this as there is no restrictions on anyone reading these adverts.
If we made everybody sign in it still wouldn't stop the problem as the scammers, who seem to be genuine would just sign in.

What can be done is for the advertisers to be be more aware.

It seems as if the pattern is repeated.
The seller works away, fishing vessel seems to be a common one.
They always need a bank transfer.

Now a few questions:
Do they supply photographs?
Do they seem knowledgeable ?

One way to sort a scammer out would be to tell them you have a friend in the area who is prepared to collect and pay cash.
Anyone backing away from this would seem very suspect to me.
Don't use payment methods that you cannot reverse (PayPal and that type of site will protect you from this type of scam and they won't use it)
Now when a bank transfer is made and nothing happens has anyone contacted the police in the area the bank is located ? This is fraud after all.

If you do want to post information on this please visit our forums.
You can also report it to the police via Action Fraud or on 0300 123 2040
Very easy to do they collate all Fraud with the Metropolitan Police, this was a request from a person at Action Fraud.

 

Edited By RJW on 04/02/2014 09:17:27

Robbo04/02/2014 09:38:25
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I have very strong security and have no problem with Homeworkshop. The "scams" warning has been there for a long time since some evildoers responded to "wanted" adverts on the site.

Oompa Lumpa04/02/2014 09:51:48
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You know, there are some really talented people on this forum, whose advice is absolute gold.

But when it comes to the actual internet there are a good number who are totally without a clue.

For instance, a Phishing attack. Could you please go find out exactly what that is RJW before you copy the Fraud Warning banner, perhaps, maybe? With respect, I could turn you into a victim pretty quickly because you have clearly demonstrated you don't know what you are doing. Because Adguard has blocked the page - You actually believe what you have read?

Trust me, you would be an easy mark, you believe anything your computer tells you. Read the words, then go find out what they mean. Without looking it tells me Adguard has an error in it's algorithm and either needs updating or disabling until an update is found. OR - you are not paying attention to the address in the address bar.

I am not trying to be contentious or patronising, but before anyone starts telling everyone a website doesn't work go here: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ and check first and then before you start copying and pasting "warnings" - understand what the warning actually means. What it actually means to me - the second, Red Banner, is that there are unscrupulous people out there. I know that, I am aware of it. Some aren't.

It does not mean that the website has been contrived as a place for scammers. Nor would they have access to the "back end" under normal circumstances to contrive a scam, nor would they need to. All they need to do is place an Ad: Tom Senior Mill, all accessories, £750 send money now - and you become a victim. Simples.

graham.

Edited By Oompa Lumpa on 04/02/2014 09:54:30

blowlamp04/02/2014 09:55:13
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Action Fraud - now there's a joke if ever I saw one. Run by the CITY of LONDON POLICE... you know, they're the ones that police the financial district of London - things like the banks and all that. It's plain to see how they've got it under control. crook

BBC Breakfast Article

 

Martin.

Edited By blowlamp on 04/02/2014 10:04:46

Oompa Lumpa04/02/2014 10:05:45
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Posted by John Stevenson on 04/02/2014 09:09:44:

Checked it this end lads and can't find anything.

Just updated it with a couple of absolute bargains amongst the others.

Don't all rush at once.

You are not wrong actually.- Would love to own that Alba shaper, but sadly I have no room

graham.

Michael Gilligan04/02/2014 10:32:16
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This recent hack of ebay/PayPal is quite impressive

MichaelG.

RJW04/02/2014 12:09:11
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Oompa Lumpa Graham, 'Trust You', Not a bloody prayer!
Whilst you have the right to express your opinions on what contributors here may post, you have NO right whatever to denigrate me or my level of intelligence (or anyone else for that matter) in such an offensive manner on this or any other public forum, you DISGUST me!
I made No personal attacks on Anyone, and I certainly see no reason why you should have felt the need to do so!

For your information, I simply copied what a malware programme flagged up And what the website owners themselves posted up on their own website to warn others of possible fraud, now why in God's name should I be berated by anyone for posting up that same information, You may have seen it years ago, but I haven't and I'll wager many others reading here haven't either!

As for the warning banner in Adblock, No I don't take it as the gospel truth, but it is a tool in my armoury and that information Does flag up a warning to me that care needs to be taken when visiting that site, otherwise why did the owners them selves post up their own warning, it may have been there years, but the owners haven't seen the need to remove it either!
Enough people must have complained about it otherwise security companies wouldn't have that url logged in their database, but then you probably say the same about anti-virus programmes too, anyone totally ignoring those warnings is an attack waiting to happen, and they're costing banks and other institutions £$Billions every year!

As for my lack of prowess in computer and internet use, I've been using the web since the early 90's and computers since DOS plus every incarnation of Windows since (except 8), in addition, Linux and latterly MAC OSX up to Lion and Android, plus a few web domains of my own registered, so contrary to your petulant superiority attack on my abilities and understanding, I do have a modicum of nous how to find my way around t'Internet using various media without getting my arse bitten!

You and I may know a few wrinkles, but many on here don't, as as a community we have a certain duty of care to watch each other's backs, not stick a bloody great dagger in them at the slightest provocation when someone tries to do so, otherwise what is the point of being here!
I want to participate with a group of individuals who reciprocate help in whatever fields we may be experienced, not people acting like petulant brats who wish to score points on others to bolster their own sense of importance!

As I used to impress upon my students who lacked self confidence, 'Not one individual we stand next to in life is any better than we are, because they can Always do something in life that we can't, and by that definition can be no better than us!

So Oompa Graham, if you think I'm so inept, it may be wise to reconsider your own standing in life!

 

John

Edited By Diane Carney on 04/02/2014 14:58:58

blowlamp04/02/2014 12:27:20
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Posted by RJW on 04/02/2014 12:09:11:

 

...I don't know who ..... but it wasn't me!

John

Although you may have just ..... devil

 

Martin.

Edited By Diane Carney on 04/02/2014 14:59:27

Edited By Diane Carney on 04/02/2014 15:00:23

_Paul_04/02/2014 14:35:16
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Glad it's still working, John and his son keep a great site.

Diane Carney04/02/2014 14:59:45
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Come on chaps. Behave....

Diane

Oompa Lumpa04/02/2014 15:56:07
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Posted by Diane Carney on 04/02/2014 14:59:45:

Come on chaps. Behave....

Diane

 

I am out.

No apology though, not after the "not bloody likely" comment.

Pity Diane had to resort to editing. Like I said, welcome to my ignore list.

graham.

Edited By Oompa Lumpa on 04/02/2014 16:08:43

Tony Pratt 104/02/2014 17:43:46
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Guys, none of us read or post on forums to be ridiculed. We all have our strengths & weaknesses and other so called experts should respect that! We could spend all day running each other down but life is too short, so as I said a respectful answer is the key to good communication.

Tony

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