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Graham Rounce17/11/2012 19:29:08
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For my gyroscope project, I've obtained some metal rings (pipe "slices") about 6" diameter and say 1cm x 1cm in cross-section. (I've put a pic in my Album - is it visible?)
Now they just need a little trueing up
As I don't have the money or the room for a whole lathe, I was wondering... If I bolted just the carriage to my wood lathe, is there any reason why it shouldn't work? I'd have to adjust the feed position by moving the carriage manually and re-bolting, but the X and Y tool movement should be ok?
Among my worries are Vibration (only do small cuts), Inappropriate speed, and Affordability of even a 2nd-hand or surplus carriage.

Is there any point in even thinking about this?
Thanks,
NJH17/11/2012 20:21:04
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Hi Graham

In principle it could work. You will need some secure way of holding the rings and a very much slower speed than is usually available on the wood lathe.

Using a compound slide on a wood lathe is not a new idea see HERE

It might be safer and quicker to seek the services of a friendly model engineer though!

Good luck

Norman

Jeff Dayman17/11/2012 23:54:33
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The spindle speed on a wood lathe (usually 500-2500 rpm for hobby lathes) is far too high for metal cutting especially a large dia piece as you describe. Unless the cutting speed is about 150 surface feet per minute for steel, you will burn up the tools. A 6" diameter is 1.57 feet in circumference. At 150 sfpm this is around 95 rpm (slower than that will work too).

JD

Ian S C18/11/2012 10:37:10
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I'v got the "Popular Mechanics do it yourself Encyclopedia", and vol 13 has a build artical for a compound rest for a wood lathe. From what I can see at a glance, the only machine needed (you could proberbly do without), is a drill press. It does suggest a jack shaft to drop the speed to something usable for metal turning. It's one of many articals from the Popular Mechanics mag of the 1940s to the 1960s. Ian S C

Terryd18/11/2012 13:16:15
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Hi ian,

Do you have the original publication details for the article as the Popular Mechanics magazines are published on Google Books

Regards

Terry

KWIL18/11/2012 13:19:13
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The Myford ML8 woodworking lathe used to have as an optional accessory, a compound slide.

NJH18/11/2012 17:30:06
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Graham

If you decide to persue the wood lathe option.......

Does your lathe have the option for fitting a faceplate to the left hand end of the mandrel? If so you could fit this and make a handle from a piece of broomstick and screw this such that it is at right angles to the plate. Disconnect the drive belts and enlist the services of a willing (?) volunteer to wind the handle slowly, in the manner of a barrel organ operator, whilst you operate the tool slide. You will then have what many of us wish for - a variable speed drive for free! ( Although I guess it may have some hidden costs later in terms of favours or beers owed )

I still favour the path of finding a willing ME friend!

Norman

Springbok19/11/2012 04:27:44
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Graham

Where are you if in west country welcome to come and use my workshop
Bob

Ian S C19/11/2012 11:42:17
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Terry, I'v got the "Popular Mechanics DIY Encyclopedia", my dad had it, so I just hung on to it as there are some useful bits in it. I imagine all this stuf is on line, under Popular Mechanics. The artical covers 6 pages, including 2 pages of drawings. Ian S C

Graham Rounce21/11/2012 12:04:19
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Sorry I've been absent, but thanks for all that info & suggestions (and the offer, Bob, but unfort I'm in Bethnal Green, London).
I'll post pix (eventually) when it's done.
Cheers again,
Dunc21/11/2012 17:10:01
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While this video deals with wood machining the idea of a metal-working tool approach is evident

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E3VG6dsVYs

Don't know if these reference the same article above but Popular Mechanics Feb 1959 shows a home-built lathe. Might get some ideas there.

Last (& not least), I have noted references "on the net" to building small lathes in old issues of ME but I have no further data.

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