Is it really a joke

Part 1

Added to the below is the additional problem for owners without a garage recharging an EV parked on the road outside a residence (cables across the pavement?).

Part 2

Part 3

Derek that is why they want everyone to have smart meters

Edited By Graham Titman on 07/04/2022 12:41:35

Derek

point 1 should be 50 Kwatt not watt

Derek

Is most of your posting a copy of an article? If so, it would be nice to have a reference.

The comments, which make a lot of sense, are more than interesting, in fact a bit disturbing.

My immediate thought, since I am not going to buy an EV, is smart meters. If variable tariff charges come in electricity could be cheap during the day.

JA

Posted before seeing Graham's comment.

Edited By JA on 07/04/2022 12:52:33

So much there that is just wrong.

Reads like an American article written by antis looking for excuses - and quoting incorrect UK "facts" to back up their viewpoint.

My brother's 6 year old Leaf should be halfway through its second battery according to the "facts" above - strange that the original item still shows 97% of manufactured capacity & range remains the same as when the car was new ? And the OE battery on that car is guaranteed for 8 years (which seems to be the usual warranty period for the high voltage battery in other makes as well) & will be replaced if capacity drops below 75% within that time.

Home charge points are not rapid chargers - a 100A supply will run the standard 7Kw home charge point comfortably from a 32A breaker.

Not suggesting that EVs or the current charging infrastructure are perfect, but most of the quoted "article" assertions are either suspect of just wrong.

Nigel B.

Standardised quick-change battery packs will be the way to go. Already doing it with heavy trucks in Australia. Car pulls into a service station and leaves a few minutes later with a newly installed fully charged battery pack. Flat battery pack is left behind to be recharged by wind or solar etc. Motorcycle manufacturers have already worked out an industry standard battery pack. Car makers will need to do the same.

Or do what some American YouTubers have done. Take the dead Tesla, rip out the electrics and install a honkin' great Cummins diesel engine with overclocked injectors so they can drive past cyclists and blow black smoke all over them. Gotta love 'Merka.

Read recently the environmental cost of actually building cars in the first place. It said it took around 50,000 for a petrol/ diesel car as against around 90,000 for an electric vehicle to get to net zero. I should think that at those sort of mileages in the UK you would be near to the end of life batteries in terms of years of operation.

Missed out ‘miles’.

It is actually printed by these nutters in America

Who We Are - America Out Loud

Make your own judgement on the veracity of any facts they publish

Its an unsigned "guest column" on a site called Hoboken411. https://hoboken411.com/archives/141312

No mention of the author's name or qualifications or expertise in the field, and no references as to where the information comes from. Possibly "did his own research" on Google. Other columns on the site include "Fact Checking is the New Propaganda Ministry" and anti-mandatory-vax articles.

So yeah probably is a joke.

Edited By Hopper on 07/04/2022 13:38:58

But who is Malcolm? Does he not have a surname? Or are we all such good buddies it's first name basis only?

Edited By Frances IoM on 07/04/2022 13:51:57

Edited By Frances IoM on 07/04/2022 13:52:32

All charged by the eight 'new' nuclear reactors we are going to build and have running by 2030.

Ten if Hinkley C is not included plus the 25GW of additional windmills ...............

Any bets ?

According to Elon Musk on Twitter, Tesla car batteries are supposed to technically last for 300,000 to 500,000 miles, which is 1,500 battery cycles. That's between 22 and 37 years for the average car driver, who, according to the Department of Transportation, drives about 13,500 miles per year. (Source: Energysage.com)

Hey if it was on Twitter it must be true.

Different tariffs at peak times of the day are the stated intentions of Utility companies, this can only be achieved by using Smart meters, so far I have refused to have one fitted despite constant emails and phonecalls from my energy supplier, I am sure that at some time in the future a statute will appear requiring us all to succumb or be cut off from energy suppliers. Electricity is only going to get more expensive as somehow the extra infrastructure that will be needed will have to be paid for, we are already paying for the rollout of the smart meters and at the last estimate each one fitted cost in excess of £100, financed by us the customers. I have solar panels on my roof and battery storage so I can mitigate some of the costs of electricity by using appliances when the sun shines, not looking forward to the grid being able to rob from my batteries when the grid runs short, and yes this issue has already been debated and approved as a way to go when we are all connected via smart meters. I am not intending to purchase an EV because at 75 years of age now my driving days will probably be over when there are no more internal combustion engined vehicles left on our roads. My view of the future is not rosy, hopefully I am wrong, but the past track record of our country is not good when adapting to change. Dave W

I think the intention of governments is to get electric cars and the required infrastructure established and hope that battery technology improves at a reasonable rate. An improved battery would weigh a lot less than the current ones, charge quickly, hold a bigger charge, last a long time, use something less dangerous than lithium and be easily recycled. I don't intend to hold my breath waiting for all these features to come true. This would still leave the problem of the supply capacity.

Martin C

My Hyundai ioniq battery is guaranteed for 8 years to still be above 80% capacity I think. I have a low cost charging rate between 2am and 6am. Different companies offer different charge rates and times. I have a 7KW charge point fitted which also allows me to charge directly from solar panels if they are generating enough power. This is a good option rather than selling it back to the grid for 6ppkw.

The only issue as has been said is the network availability. Went to Fort William at the weekend, planned route and charge points. and found all of the new Chargeplace Scotland points in An Aird car park not working. The older Evolt charge point worked only on ac charge, dc fast charge not working. Not surprisingly all of the 6 or so Tesla chargers were working perfectly.

Ended up using the chargers at the Nevis Range while we were there. 50ppkw wasnt cheap though.

Edited By Ian McVickers on 07/04/2022 15:09:21