Vic | 07/05/2021 13:47:46 |
3453 forum posts 23 photos | How do folks dispose of empty Gas Cylinders like this: |
Jeff Dayman | 07/05/2021 14:34:10 |
2356 forum posts 47 photos | Outdoors, away from any flame, remove the fill valve in the centre of the threaded stem. Most will unscrew like a car tire valve core. This will vent any pressure inside the bottle. If it does not unscrew, depress the valve stem to vent all remaining pressure, then drill the valve out while running water around the twist drill. Leave outside to vent for a day or two. Fill with water, place in jaws of workmate, Drill a 3/8 dia hole midway up the bottle. Using a hacksaw blade in a handheld jigsaw, or a portable bandsaw, cut the bottle in two midway up the bottle. You now have two harmless pieces of steel scrap that can not be pressurized or cause explosion or fire. You can divide the pieces further of course if you want. I usually leave the pieces outdoors for a few more days to allow any odorant from the gas or entrained gas in or on the metal to dissipate. Note that you need to be aware of all local laws about such practices, and not do it at all if it is prohibited where you are. Edited By Jeff Dayman on 07/05/2021 14:36:11 |
DC31k | 07/05/2021 15:49:59 |
1186 forum posts 11 photos | Your Screwfix link was fortuitous as one of the questions on the page is about a key, to remove the valve. It is shown here: https://www.stuartplumbing.co.uk/rothenberger-recycling-gas-bottle-cartridge-vent-valve-key/ |
Jeff Dayman | 07/05/2021 16:07:52 |
2356 forum posts 47 photos | Or what I use, for 1.52 UK pounds at Amazoon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Silverline-380153-Valve-Repair-Four-Way/dp/B002QS0HD4/ref=sr_1_4?_encoding=UTF8&c=ts&dchild=1&keywords=Tyre+Valve+Tools&qid=1620399906&s=automotive&sr=1-4&ts_id=5136357031 I would be surprised if several of your car-owning friends or relatives don't already have one though. |
AdrianR | 07/05/2021 16:10:31 |
613 forum posts 39 photos | Depending on where you live, you may just be able to take them to the local recycling center.
https://www.recyclenow.com/what-to-do-with/gas-bottles-1 |
ega | 07/05/2021 16:13:08 |
2805 forum posts 219 photos | Is that gas mixture - see Screwfix website - hotter than the ordinary Calor propane? |
noel shelley | 07/05/2021 17:24:21 |
2308 forum posts 33 photos | What size are we talking about ? Noel |
Vic | 07/05/2021 17:31:15 |
3453 forum posts 23 photos | Posted by noel shelley on 07/05/2021 17:24:21:
What size are we talking about ? Noel Click on the link. They’re about a foot tall. |
Speedy Builder5 | 07/05/2021 17:32:32 |
2878 forum posts 248 photos | More on this link: Disposing of gas bottles |
DC31k | 07/05/2021 17:43:36 |
1186 forum posts 11 photos | Posted by ega on 07/05/2021 16:13:08:
Is that gas mixture - see Screwfix website - hotter than the ordinary Calor propane? I believe propane is propane, so no. The torch that the gas bottle fits uses air at atmospheric pressure. If you want more hotness using propane as the fuel gas, I think you can use compressed air (like the Flamefast brazing hearths) or oxy-propane. The same style of gas canister is available in a yellow colour and contains MAPP gas (also called MAP, MAP-X or MAP plus). Burning in air, this does produce a hotter flame. |
Tony Pratt 1 | 07/05/2021 18:02:48 |
2319 forum posts 13 photos | Jeff D is spot on. Tony |
ega | 07/05/2021 20:14:54 |
2805 forum posts 219 photos | DC31K: Thank you. I gather from Wiki that the MAPP story is a bit complicated. |
IanT | 07/05/2021 20:23:47 |
2147 forum posts 222 photos | Simples - The local tip - just hand it to an operative. Regards, IanT |
Bazyle | 07/05/2021 21:54:10 |
![]() 6956 forum posts 229 photos | Why does anyone not just use up all the gas for the purpose for which it is intended? You got money to burn? |
Michael Gilligan | 07/05/2021 22:32:24 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by IanT on 07/05/2021 20:23:47:
Simples - The local tip - just hand it to an operative. Regards, IanT . Not in Cheshire East !! [quote] What you cannot recycle at the household waste and recycling centreWe cannot accept:
[/quote] MichaelG. . Edit: Although I note that the item in Vic’s question is claimed to be disposable Edited By Michael Gilligan on 07/05/2021 22:37:45 |
Jeff Dayman | 07/05/2021 22:45:36 |
2356 forum posts 47 photos | Re using up all the gas - I always use these small cylinders until the torch won't run anymore, but there is always a wisp or two of gas in them afterward. Very little, but some. Can't see a way around it except to maybe refill the cylinder. I am aware this is technically easy to do - in fact I have been present when it was done - but locally it is against the law to do it. Not sure why. There may be a concern by authorities that the small cylinders could be over pressurized if fed from the wrong kind if gas supply, maybe? or maybe big merchants lobbied the regs so they can keep selling bags of these small tanks to people...... Re giving these small cylinders to the local waste/ dump staff - local to me, the waste station / dump will not accept gas cylinders of any kind. No problem with scrap steel though, as mentioned in my first post above. |
Michael Gilligan | 07/05/2021 22:52:11 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | This dates back to 2008 ... but I don’t know if the idea was ever adopted in the U.K. https://outdoorindustry.org/press-release/coleman-provides-solution-for-disposal-of-single-use-propane-cylinders/ MichaelG. |
IanT | 07/05/2021 22:52:36 |
2147 forum posts 222 photos | I don't know what other local authorities do but my local Tip does accept disposable gas cylinders - I just hand them to the Man. Did it two weeks ago. Re-fillable cylinders are a different thing - I believe they are owned by the 'gas' company - but since they can be exchanged for refills - I'd just stick any unwanted spare bottles on Gumtree. Regards, IanT |
Michael Gilligan | 07/05/2021 23:04:14 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | On Vic’s specific question ... This might help: **LINK** https://www.stuartplumbing.co.uk/rothenberger-recycling-gas-bottle-cartridge-vent-valve-key/ They even offer:
MichaelG. |
Hacksaw | 07/05/2021 23:43:24 |
474 forum posts 202 photos | I've been making these candlesticks for clients out of their horses old shoes .. they love them ! The cups are bits of exhaust pipe capped off with a disc of steel ,cheapskate me .. I thought of using core plugs, until i saw the price of them.. My daughters old pony died last month , and she asked me to make her one from his old shoes , but for only one candle.. The bottom of a disposable mig gas bottle came in handy ! ( They won't take them at the recycle tip despite there being a recycle symbol on the cylinder ..)
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