Mike Donnerstag | 25/07/2019 17:34:28 |
![]() 231 forum posts 53 photos | I have a Meddings Driltru floor-standing pillar drill. I've noticed that the quill becomes more difficult to move when the weather is hot (such as today!). As I do a lot of work with small drills, this is causing a problem! Having removed the handwheel, spring and shaft, as well as the quill assembly, I found that the problem is the plastic (nylon?) bush that the handwheel shaft runs through. I have removed the 2BA grub screw under the bush that, I assume, sets the tightness of the bush on the shaft. In the parts diagram, the plastic bush is labelled 15 - Activating Gear Bush, and the shaft is labelled 13 - Activating Gear and Shaft Sub-Assembly. My question is, what can I do to make the shaft run smoothly? The shaft is 5/8" in diameter. Should I run a 5/8" reamer down the bush? Many thanks, Mike |
Bikepete | 25/07/2019 17:41:09 |
250 forum posts 34 photos | I had exactly the same thing. I opened up the bush slighty by boring it on the lathe as I had no reamer to hand, but a reamer should work too. |
Mike Donnerstag | 25/07/2019 17:54:25 |
![]() 231 forum posts 53 photos | Bikepete: Did this work without creating too much play? |
DC31k | 25/07/2019 18:39:59 |
1186 forum posts 11 photos | Would a complete replacement bush in metal (perhaps oilite running on the shaft) be a long term option to fix it forever? Maybe the original was cost-engineered. |
Frances IoM | 25/07/2019 18:55:14 |
1395 forum posts 30 photos | bit surprised if nylon as this is hygroscopic and could change dimensionally with humidity |
Neil Wyatt | 25/07/2019 19:56:27 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | " Under dry-as-molded (DAM) conditions, polyamide, or nylon, usually contains 0.1 ~ 0.3% water. At room temperature and 50% relative humidity (RH), type 6 polyamide could eventually absorb 2.75% water. Every 1% moisture increase in nylon may result in 0.2 to 0.3% increase in its dimension " In other words, drying out the bush should cause it to shrink. Neil |
Peter Tucker | 25/07/2019 21:06:01 |
185 forum posts | Quite right Neil. A bush that shrinks will tighten on it's shaft. Peter. |
Mike Donnerstag | 23/08/2019 14:00:36 |
![]() 231 forum posts 53 photos | Just for interest, I reamed the bush very lightly from both sides, polished the spindle (it was lightly scored) and reassembled. This improved the problem. Once the weather had cooled down, the problem went away altogether, which definitely points to the fact that the nylon bush is tightening onto the spindle when the weather is hot. I hope that helps anyone with a similar problem. Mike |
Michael Gilligan | 23/08/2019 14:27:49 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Peter Tucker on 25/07/2019 21:06:01:
Quite right Neil. A bush that shrinks will tighten on it's shaft. Peter. . Not quite, Peter Nylon [for example] is hygroscopic, and will increase significantly in volume when it takes-up water As the outside diameter is constrained it applies pressure to the inside diameter. ... Hence a Nylon bush that expands in this way will tighten on the shaft. Expansion and contraction with temperature is a somewhat different issue, and less significant in the present context because every component is affected in a similar way; and by much smaller amounts than you get with hygroscopic expansion. MichaelG.
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Daniel | 23/08/2019 14:57:27 |
![]() 338 forum posts 48 photos | Perhaps it's HDPE. As I've been given to understand, HDPE is less affected by humidity. ATB Daniel |
Ian P | 23/08/2019 15:12:22 |
![]() 2747 forum posts 123 photos | There are a multitude of materials that a bearing bush could be made from. Nylon would be an unusual choice for this application and HDPE even more so. If Meddings wanted to specifically use a polymer bush they would have been best served by consulting Igus (or just choosing one out of the Igus range). I know of a company that converted a Porsche 911 to full racing specification and took great pride in showing the complete set of high precision nylon parts they had machined for all the suspension. The first track outing was a disaster as the suspension virtually locked up in the wet conditions! Ian P
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ega | 23/08/2019 15:52:15 |
2805 forum posts 219 photos | The comments about nylon remind me that some time ago I helped a sailing friend to overhaul a cutlass bearing. I don't remember the details of this but note a suggestion elsewhere that the bearing surface of the plastic material involved is fluted. |
Michael Gilligan | 23/08/2019 19:19:11 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Daniel on 23/08/2019 14:57:27:
Perhaps it's HDPE. . Perhaps it is ... I currently have no way of knowing. MichaelG. |
Bikepete | 24/08/2019 10:17:58 |
250 forum posts 34 photos | Posted by Mike Donnerstag on 25/07/2019 17:54:25:
Bikepete: Did this work without creating too much play? Apologies Mike, I must have got called away and didn't spot this reply at the time. Seems you're now sorted but FWIW mine doesn't have play that I've noticed, but it is a little bit 'sticky' again when I tried it just now - perhaps I didn't take enough off for this hot weather! |
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