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James Alford25/02/2018 11:10:07
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Good morning.

This rule, which appears to be made of either bone or ivory, was amongst my gandfather's tools who was an engineer, designing tools. I have absolutely no idea what it is for or whether it is even a measuring rule at all.

I should welcome any information on it.

James.

 

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Edited By James Alford on 25/02/2018 11:10:48

Neil Wyatt25/02/2018 19:30:28
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I'll dive an and say ... I haven't gota clue.

One interesting thing is that the angle scales measure out from the centre.

The straight scale appears to be ordinary inches from the end.

Brian H25/02/2018 19:59:11
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Could it be a scale rule?

Brian

Martin King 225/02/2018 20:01:02
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Hi, it is an Ivory sector rule, very nice item, is there a makers name?

Martin

James Alford25/02/2018 20:04:47
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What puzzles me further are the letters at the end of the rule. On one side, it has S, T and T. The has L, S and C. A third set of lines has T*, S* and N*. I have just noticed that even the thin edge has numbers and a scale. I cannot find a maker's name, but there are the initials FOL. Ummm. What is a sector rule?

James.

Edited By James Alford on 25/02/2018 20:09:21

not done it yet25/02/2018 21:06:37
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“What is a sector rule”

There is a fairly comprehensive explanation on Wiki

michael potts25/02/2018 21:06:51
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Hello James.

There are currently seven sector rules on ebay at a variety of prices, all fairly high, all similar to yours.

Wikipedia has a long explanation detailing the various scales on the rule. Further editing seems to be needed on most of the scales. The origin of the rule appears to have been Italy in the early seventeenth century. It allowed the user to perform a number of calculations, some stated, and others described as 'complex'.

Put 'sector scale' into google or whatever, and be prepared spend some time looking at the various items that come up, because it does not take long to become complicated and complex.

Regards. Mike.

James Alford25/02/2018 22:07:27
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Thank you for all of the replies. I have had a look at Wikipedia which I shall need to read more carefully later. I had wondered whether it were some sort of technical drawing aid, but I was obviously wrong.

Thank you.

James.
Martin King 225/02/2018 22:21:10
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Good English makers increase the value of these and they can be highly collectable. Does it have tiny brass 'buttons' with a dimple in the middle for divider points to avoid wear?

Martin

James Alford25/02/2018 22:55:51
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Martin.

I have just looked at the tiny brass buttons at the ends of the rule, using a magnifying glass and testing with a divider point, it does have the dimples in the brass inserts.

James.
Speedy Builder526/02/2018 07:02:08
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James - Sine, Co-sine and Tangent ,Log ,T* - Tanh, S* - Sinh, C* - Cosh. I don't remember how they worked, but seem to remember something at college 50 odd years ago when we made our own on white card strips.

Ah - the web to the rescue
BobH >**LINK**

Martin King 226/02/2018 07:49:20
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Hi James, Looking at the middle 2 pics it appears to me that possibly it is bone not ivory, particularly as there is no makers name. Does close inspection show microscopic porosity in the stained brown areas near the hinge joint?

Also the slight warping in the middle is more common to bone.

There are varying quality types of these, some also made in boxwood.

Cheers, Martin

pierre ehly 226/02/2018 08:29:08
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hi,

French & English sector (the ancestor of computer)

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KWIL26/02/2018 11:17:32
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Fascinating, I want one.

Brian Sweeting26/02/2018 14:52:43
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Slide rule forerunner perhaps?

Damn clever our forebears weren't they?

James Alford26/02/2018 20:22:39
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Martin:

I have had a look at the material with a magnifying glass. Rather than porosity, the structure seems to be more like very fine lines, like the grain in some cuts of beech wood.

BobH: thank you for the information about sines et all and the link to the web page. I have had a look at it and it has shed a lot of light on the tool. All I can say is thank goodness for modern calculators.

Regards,

James.

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