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jonathon cary27/09/2014 12:12:11
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I want to buy a 1/2 hp motor for 2 elderly motorless small machines I have but am not sure which..Either a Clarkes which is about £110 or other new ones on ebay which are capcitor start and run for about £70.Wondered if the latter tupe would be ok and last a while..I know cap run types are used in washing machines so should be adequate for my light use..Thank you
jonathon cary27/09/2014 12:14:58
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my phone types all sorts for ? signs!
jonathon cary27/09/2014 12:15:55
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pounds sterling
Les Jones 127/09/2014 17:29:35
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Hi Jonathon,
I suspect that Clarke do not make motors.They probably get a motor manufacturer to make them an put a Clarke badge on them. I would not pay £110.00 for a 1/2HP Clarke motor when Machine Mart sell the 2 pole one for £75.79 and the 4 pole one for £83.98 The Clarke motors look like they have two capacitors so there is no difference in the specification. If I was buying one I would get the one on Ebay. (I spotted one at £68.00) Most of the new motors on Ebay seem to be manufactured by TEC (Chinese.) I bought a 1HP three phase TEC motor and it works fine and looks well made. By the way I have never seen a washing machine with any type of induction motor fitted. All the ones I have seen have a series wound motor. (Also called universal.)

Les.

Phil Whitley27/09/2014 17:44:20
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I would pop down to the local electrical engineers or rewinders, they will probably sell you a British made 1/2 hp for about £25 to £50 second hand, far bttr bet than italian or chinese. I have noticed that some of the Clarke motors hum very loudly which is a clear indication of a poorly wound and therefore inneficient motor.

Phil

Ian S C28/09/2014 09:43:35
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All the old wringer type washing machines had either 1/4 or 1/3hp induction motors, split phase ie. no capacitor. The Hoover Twin Tub of the same era had universal motors. Here in NZ, if you pay more than $NZ25 you'r being ripped off for an old 1/4hp motor. If there is a bit of a load to start against maybe cap start would help, but I run my wood lathe on a 2/3hp split phase motor ex an old petrol bowser (it's flame proof).

Ian S C

jonathon cary28/09/2014 13:54:20
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Thank you for the info Phil..Clarkes/Machinemarts need a starter which is ?25 extra..Tec is what I was looking at and most likely..
A local electrical engineer who can rewind motors could be difficult to find around Cambridge, No one here but great thinkers!
I hope i never need it fireproofing!!
martin perman28/09/2014 14:04:38
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Try here http://electricmotorservices.co.uk/index.php?region=cambridge or herehttp://www.cambridgerewinds.co.uk/

Neil Wyatt28/09/2014 14:20:52
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FWIW I have a 3-phase 1/2 HP Tec from Transwave on my lathe and it's smooth as silk.

Neil

Les Jones 128/09/2014 14:58:54
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Hi Jonathon,
In your post at 13:54 you imply that Clarke motors need a starter and others do no. All induction motors should be used with a starter which provides overload protection and a no volt release function (To prevent it starting by itself after a power failure.) A lot of people use motors without overload protection and even without a no volt release switch.

Les.

jonathon cary28/09/2014 17:59:09
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Hallo Martin.Didnt see you at Haddenham this year..
martin perman28/09/2014 18:04:16
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I was there with my Lister A, not in the main area as when I turned up early Friday morning there was no longer any space so I and others were put between the Rally office and Craft tent.

Martin P

daveb28/09/2014 18:15:47
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The motor starter from Machine Mart does not have no volt release, it's just a push button switch with (perhaps) a thermal trip. Tool Station stocks reasonably priced DOL starters and overloads, the case and insides are fine but the moulded push buttons are a bit fragile.

jonathon cary28/09/2014 18:42:11
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glad I found this forum.With my electrical knowledge I d have put a plug on it and,well, plugged it in
Les Jones 128/09/2014 20:14:23
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Hi Jonathon,
I've just noticed that there is a 1/4HP motor for £15.00 in the "for sale" adds on this site if it is powerful enough for your needs.

Les.

jonathon cary29/09/2014 01:17:13
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Thanks Les..1/4 may be a bit small..I m looking ahead..Ordered a 1/2 hp TEC ..DOL starters seem reasonable price so should be ok..Thank you everyone
I did nt look that far for stationary engines Martin.I will next year ,hate missing any
Chris Denton29/09/2014 17:01:43
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www.inverterdrive.com are good for motors.

Edited By Chris Denton on 29/09/2014 17:02:08

Howard Lewis30/09/2014 16:59:44
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Jonathon,

If you are in Cambridge, UK, you might like to contact Shoebridges in Stanground, Peterborough. They rewind and repair motors, and so could help, if only with advice. And they are about forty miles away.

They got me out of trouble, saving buying a new motor, when I thought that the motor on my Myford had gone west.

Howard

jonathon cary30/09/2014 18:09:57
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motor arrived but no starter yet..Having found the cheapest one at ?39 I m not buying one! If I have to I ll take the mitor out of our old Henry(hoover!) and use that until I feel rich again(again!) Is there something unpleasant or dangerous happens to motors which dont use starters..would a low power circuit breaker help? ?Henry never had one..
Neil Wyatt30/09/2014 18:37:19
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Hi Jonathon,

The function of starters as 'stoppers' is perhaps more important than as starters.

Their 'no-voltage release' safety function is to stop the machine starting on its own when power is reapplied, obviously the potential; for destruction and mayhem is much less with a vacuum cleaner than a lathe.

Neil

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