Ian S C | 10/01/2015 11:04:04 |
![]() 7468 forum posts 230 photos | When we were setting up our engine/propeller over haul shop back in the 1960's someone mentioned that two surface tables similar to the one with the bent prop on it were wrung together and hung above the entrance of the factory they were made in.... maybe, maybe not. |
Hopper | 10/01/2015 13:12:39 |
![]() 7881 forum posts 397 photos | Posted by Russell Eberhardt on 10/01/2015 10:35:29:
Posted by Jerry Wray on 09/01/2015 14:27:32:
Oh No! Not van de Waals forces! There has been much correspondence amongst physicist disputing the existence of these. Perhaps we should all back-off until we have read the latest research papers, Then we might be able to take a view. For the uninitiated these forces have been in dispute for at least forty years. Jerry Well, they certainly existed 50 years ago when I studied physics at university although it has only recently become possible to measure them. Of course the theory has been disputed. That's science. If we accept everything as true we don't progress. Try telling the geckos that the forces don't exist and they'll all fall off the glass of their vivariums! Russell. And off the walls and ceilings of my workshop here in the tropincs, including the motion detectors of my newly installed burglar alarm with rather annoying results! |
Larry Coleman 1 | 10/01/2015 14:35:03 |
![]() 102 forum posts 59 photos | I think we all may be missing the point here, Forget the oil, Has anyone thought we may have improved the way a surface finish is accomplished as well as the end result. Now I do know if you want to remove oil of a surface Ultrasonic Vapour degreaser is the way using freon 13. The military eccept it. And a vapour degreaser cleans in pure fluid because it is condensed by the cooling ring. Anyway a very interesting conversation. Larry |
Neil Lickfold | 10/01/2015 22:57:08 |
1025 forum posts 204 photos | Jason interesting post. So I just got 15 blocks and cleaned them as I normally do, then assembled them. My mic reads to .001mm, Then I redid the test again, and this time put a thin film of non scented baby oil on them. I got the same measurement. I really was expecting a measurable error of at least 4 to 5 um. I put together 1.01 to 1.6 and got 17.555mm should have been 17.550, but with the error of the blocks added up that makes it about right. I think baby oil is parafin oil as it just calls it light mineral oil. Neil L |
jason udall | 11/01/2015 10:28:39 |
2032 forum posts 41 photos | My point really is..we are not alone in considering the impact. .it seems to have been an issue in at least 1922.. |
Michael Gilligan | 11/01/2015 11:25:36 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Michael Gilligan on 01/11/2014 15:02:05: ... Careful reading of Appendix B in the NIST document [referenced above] should clarify the matter. ... it's only a couple of pages; unless you follow all the references . Quite so, Jason MichaelG. . For those who didn't read it, here is the reference again. |
jason udall | 11/01/2015 20:31:57 |
2032 forum posts 41 photos | Michael...facinating..in particular the assessment of contact area from resistivity. .. Particularly liked the noted reduction in wring as the slip "wears" or possibly "polishes". ... |
Michael Gilligan | 20/02/2015 22:54:13 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Just a quick PostScript [we don't really want to resume the debate, do we] Have a look at this, from NPL. MichaelG. |
Neil Wyatt | 21/02/2015 16:21:46 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | It's very telling that the NPL talk of 'achieving an uncertainty' rather than 'achieving an accuracy'. Neil |
Michael Gilligan | 21/02/2015 16:59:21 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Neil Wyatt on 21/02/2015 16:21:46:
It's very telling that the NPL talk of 'achieving an uncertainty' rather than 'achieving an accuracy'. . It's much better use of English, I would say. MichaelG. . Edit: This is a good place to start. Edited By Michael Gilligan on 21/02/2015 17:07:33 |
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