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DMB16/01/2012 00:45:53
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I could use my "old codgers" bus ticket for a 20 min. free ride into centre of Brighton to see Modelworld Exhibition in Feb. Hows that for on your doorstep. I probably wont go again this year even though my club, Worthing Model Engineers will have a stand. Reason is that its quite expensive to get in for what I see as essentially a "pins & glue" model xbn. (Table-top railways/trams/knitting/sewing and god knows what.) One of the model railway clubs once actually told me I belong to those "Dirty Metal bashers" in Worthing!!
I will of course, attend Worthing Club`s own xbn. in April this year. This will be a purely engineering xbn. Happy dirty metal bashing!
Bazyle16/01/2012 02:11:18
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Arc are demonstrating that they are modifying their behaviour to improve their efficiency. This is what is required to make shows worthwhile for them and other s may need to do the same.
At the end of some shows one can see examples - eg one trader is taking books off shelves and packing them in boxes, then lugging the boxes out 2 at a time before unscrewing the bookcase and packing it on top. Another has thought it through and tips the customised bookcase on its back on a trolley, puts another on top and they clip together etc so the equivalent of 20 boxes goes out the door in five minutes with no effort.
Efficient traders make their storage boxes work as display cases and for transport , so no trans-shipment - hey that's a lesson the GWR accepted on 23 May 1892 but some people still want to run a stopping goods train in the era of the container.
Our club used to need a van and several cars to get a team to the ME show to take an hour to screw the stand together, plus we had the expense of storing the complex stand throughout the year. A rethink and new tables take one man minutes to carry, flip out the legs, thow over cloth and job done ready for models.
I have spent the weekend at a show. We packed up in 20 minutes from shutdown without any rush but that was due to not moving my car closer. Some traders were whizzing past with a trolley and filled a Transit in the same time. However I have no doubt other people were faffing around until 8pm.
 
The final message is - evolution.
 
Springbok16/01/2012 07:47:29
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Hi David and Wolfie
You have totaly missed out the Bristol Thornbury The BSMEE Exhibition takes over a large leasure centre with 3 large halls FREE parking for the 3 days bring your camper
loads of traders including the big boys. It is a club exhibition run by a club and if any profits not going into some beancounters funds.
So Wolfie and everyone else come to Thornbury please all look me up usually stewarding on the club stand for the 3 days or haveing a coffee in our hospitality room
or occasionally the bar upstair. there is a lift (Clean) .
We have half page adverts in ME nearer the time
 
I will now stop beating my drum.
Bob
 
David Clark 116/01/2012 08:19:23
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Hi There
I did not miss out the Bristol Exhibition, I mentioned it in the first post about exhibitions. In the club post it was just to far from the member asking the question.
Last time I went to Bristol it was not in West Dorset.
regards David

Edited By David Clark 1 on 16/01/2012 08:20:42

Ketan Swali16/01/2012 09:43:29
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Posted by Springbok on 16/01/2012 07:47:29:
Hi David and Wolfie

You have totaly missed out the Bristol Thornbury The BSMEE Exhibition takes over a large leasure centre with 3 large halls FREE parking for the 3 days bring your camper

loads of traders including the big boys. It is a club exhibition run by a club and if any profits not going into some beancounters funds.

So Wolfie and everyone else come to Thornbury please all look me up usually stewarding on the club stand for the 3 days or haveing a coffee in our hospitality room

or occasionally the bar upstair. there is a lift (Clean) .

We have half page adverts in ME nearer the time

 

I will now stop beating my drum.

Bob

 

Edited By Ketan Swali on 16/01/2012 09:49:22

Edited By Ketan Swali on 16/01/2012 09:55:59

John Stevenson16/01/2012 09:55:55
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Bazyle,
You are comparing apples to oranges.
One stand to place some models on doesn't relate to what some have to move.
 
Take Chester as an example, on close of show whey wrap all their machines which are show mounted on skids, they then have to wait until space is available to [a] get a 42 tonner into position that's not blocked by loads of vans and then [b] get access to a large fork truck carried on the artic to load the skid mounted machines.
 
The artic takes a full load in bulk loaded front to back, both sides and then has to be strapped down.
 
I'm sure they would be very gratefully if you could tell them how to do this is 20 minutes.
Please copy this to Warco as well as they have the same problem.
 
John S.
Wolfie16/01/2012 10:11:53
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The BSMEE Exhibition takes over a large leasure centre with 3 large halls FREE parking for the 3 days bring your camper
 
Does that imply that you can park your caravan there for the weeknd?
Ketan Swali16/01/2012 10:20:36
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Edited By Ketan Swali on 16/01/2012 10:34:00

Ketan Swali16/01/2012 10:22:52
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JS,
 
I don't think Bazyl was arguing the point. I think he was just making an observation, based on his experience.
 
Ketan at ARC.
Ketan Swali16/01/2012 10:27:56
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Bob,
 
BSMEE do put on a great show. I do think that you might be over guilding the lilly a little with reference to your comments about traders, and other shows bean counters ....All I would say is that traders more or less know where they stand with the other shows bean counters....but then, this is only my opinion....without going into details.
 
Regardless of my opinion, I still think that the BSMEE Exhibition is a great place to see exhibits.
 
Ketan at ARC.
Terryd16/01/2012 12:39:26
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Posted by Wolfie on 15/01/2012 11:13:25:
Haha I know, that thing about calling Manchester 'up north' bugs the hell out of us. Its barely 50 miles north of Birmingham yet is hailed as the north of England. Its so politicians can scuttle up there and say they are thinking about us. They seem to have forgotten North Yorkshire and Durham and Northumberland and the Lakes.
 
I am a member of my local club which is Pickering
 
Hi Wolfie,
 
It's actually nearer 85 miles from Brum to Manchester and when I lived and worked in Durham visiting York was considered to be visiting 'The South'. And Durham was thought to be near to the south coast when my son lived and worked in Dunblane. It's all relative. To put it into perspective, Manchester is approx same latitude as Doncaster. (serious question follows - I'm interested) Do you consider Doncaster in the North or South?
 
In fact the difference in distance between you to London and Manchester to London is only about 30 miles .  By the way, I was born in my father's family home town of Morecambe, about level with you, so I consider myself a 'Northerner' too, but I was mostly brought up in the middle of 'The Black Country' and have lived in the East Midlands for longer than I care to think about - no wonder I'm easily confused  .
 
Hope you received the books?
 
Best regards
 
Terry

Edited By Terryd on 16/01/2012 12:57:30

Wolfie16/01/2012 13:42:54
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Ha! We had this discussion elsewhere recently and yes you're right its relative and it seems to depend on whether you see the country (that is England, not England and Scotland) as two parts, north and south, or three parts, north, south and Midlands.

I am in the three part camp which in my view puts Manchester and yes also Doncaster and Sheffield into the Midlands. However all three would be up north to a 2 part viewer. Durham and York aren't that far apart, I use a motorcycle shop in Durham quite regularly.
Terryd16/01/2012 14:23:38
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Posted by Wolfie on 16/01/2012 13:42:54:
Ha! We had this discussion elsewhere recently and yes you're right its relative and it seems to depend on whether you see the country (that is England, not England and Scotland) as two parts, north and south, or three parts, north, south and Midlands.

I am in the three part camp which in my view puts Manchester and yes also Doncaster and Sheffield into the Midlands. However all three would be up north to a 2 part viewer. Durham and York aren't that far apart, I use a motorcycle shop in Durham quite regularly.
 
 
HI Wolfie,
 
It's about 80 miles from York to Durham (I used to meet my girlfriend from the South there for romantic weekends - ). Manchester is about 35 miles south of York (by Latitude). I still think of Scotland as part of the UK though.
 
It's all relative! I live in S. Leicestershire quite near the M1 in a village with a couple of good pubs, and it's often a stopping off point for 'refreshments' for folks from Yorkshire travelling down for footie or Rugby league matches. On one occasion one of our locals was deriding 'Southern Jessies' when a bunch of burly Rugby followers pointed out that he was one. He was most peeved.
 
However on another occasion a Leeds (Shipley actually) man was enjoying a pint but deriding the weak, flat southern beer compared with John Smiths. I hated to tell him that he was drinking Timothy Taylor's 'Landlord' brewed in Keighley and that it was 4.3 abv compared to the JS at 3.8 - but someone had to.
 
Best regards
 
Terry

Edited By Terryd on 16/01/2012 14:24:28

John Stevenson16/01/2012 18:50:02
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Good God is John Smiths as high as 3.8 ?
 
My coolant is 5.2 and tastes a lot better.
 
John S.
DMB16/01/2012 20:31:49
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Hi Bazyle,
I have seen a large, single axle trailor used by a ME trader, that was filled with vertical dividers (plastic drainpipe?) to hold bars of metal stock. No packing, just hinge down the backboard/lid + go!
All beers under 5% = "maidswater"! Just fancy flavoured drinks.
John.
Terryd17/01/2012 04:39:33
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Posted by John Stevenson on 16/01/2012 18:50:02:
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My coolant is 5.2 and tastes a lot better.
 
John S.
Hi John,
 
I can't disagree with that assessment!
 
Regards,
 
Terry
Springbok17/01/2012 06:04:59
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David sorry did not read your post correctly
Wolfie the parking is free and quite a lot of caravans etc; stay the weekend.
Bob
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