David George 1 | 02/04/2023 08:27:56 |
![]() 2110 forum posts 565 photos | All benches I have worked on had a covering of 3mm thick oil tempered hardboard. It does two things, it protects the job you are working on especialy if you slide it and it protects the bench from damage as well as damping sound a little if you need to apply force to a job. It is easily replaced from time to time when needed. Perhaps you should put some reinforcing to the frame where the vice will be bolted. |
Bill Phinn | 02/04/2023 15:35:33 |
1076 forum posts 129 photos | Posted by David George 1 on 02/04/2023 08:27:56:
All benches I have worked on had a covering of 3mm thick oil tempered hardboard. How would you suggest attaching that to the surface of the bench, David? |
Sonic Escape | 02/04/2023 18:49:33 |
![]() 194 forum posts 5 photos | Posted by Jelly on 01/04/2023 22:07:50:
I would be inclined to use phosphoric acid (or a suitable phosphoric acid based rust treatment*) on the top of your table, wipe it down thoroughly and then apply a light machine oil or as you suggest a wax. The Iron Phosphate produced by the rust treatment will result in a dull black finish which is reasonably hard wearing and will retain a protective layer of oil or wax on the surface without being greasy to the touch. Painting the surface will not wear well, and most likely result in localised rusting wherever it gets scratched, giving you a worse long term outcome.
* Quite a few rust convertor products have a mix of weak phosphoric acid with a varnish or sealant, which is good for metal that will be painted, but would actually work against you when trying to prepare a surface of exposed "black phosphate" to be oiled/waxed for long term protection. Edited By Jelly on 01/04/2023 22:16:21 Phosphoric acid solution produce an uneven effect. In some parts it is indeed black but in others it creates a white crust that can be easily removed. I'll try to see how does it look after I apply some oil or vax.
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Sonic Escape | 02/04/2023 18:57:11 |
![]() 194 forum posts 5 photos | Here I can't find tempered plates this size. But this shop from where I bought everything has also cold rolled plates. They are treated with an acid. I'm not sure how to translate their name, maybe pickled plates. Unfortunately the plates are up to 2mm thickness. But it could be an option to glue one on top of the 5mm plate. I'll go to the shop to see them again. It should be resistant to rust. Meanwhile I painted one more layer of yellow paint. It looks better now. Edited By Sonic Escape on 02/04/2023 18:58:36 Edited By Sonic Escape on 02/04/2023 18:59:44 |
David George 1 | 03/04/2023 17:12:04 |
![]() 2110 forum posts 565 photos | Hi Bill we used to stick around the edge with double sided tape and drilled through for the vice holes to fasten on the hardboard top.
David |
Bill Phinn | 03/04/2023 23:16:11 |
1076 forum posts 129 photos | Posted by David George 1 on 03/04/2023 17:12:04:
Hi Bill we used to stick around the edge with double sided tape
David That sounds easy enough to remove when the top is worn out and needs replacing.
Sonic Escape, just in case you've misunderstood the term, oil tempered hardboard is a wood fibre board, not a metal. |
Ady1 | 04/04/2023 09:48:34 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | Very nice, well done you Don't forget you can support the table in the middle with a wooden post if you have a very heavy job on the go, like a pit prop, I use 2x4 and 4x4 wood The top depends on the jobs you do, metal for fabrication work, wood for general work Edited By Ady1 on 04/04/2023 10:03:29 |
DMB | 04/04/2023 10:12:20 |
1585 forum posts 1 photos | I have a bench made with unequal angle Dexion with thick planks for a surface that supports a Fobco Star bench drill near one end and a Dore-Westbury mill on the other end. Seems OK. The Sharp mill and MLS-7 and Warco bandsaw all on their makers stands. Bench 2 is also Dexion unequal angle, but no great weight upon it, just a hand-working bench with a hefty swivelling vice and a hand powered shaper. Both benches rammed hard against the corners of the shed on 3 fixed legs and fourth one is adjustable for rigid setting down on slightly uneven concrete floor. Hopefully, above will give a few ideas. John |
Sonic Escape | 05/04/2023 21:47:25 |
![]() 194 forum posts 5 photos | Aha, so hardboard is wood not metal! Now David's comment makes more sense Meanwhile the rust conversion treatment is already put to test. I let the metal plate outside and in the last two days here it snowed more than in the whole winter!
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Sonic Escape | 17/04/2023 09:07:21 |
![]() 194 forum posts 5 photos | The workbench is ready! I replaced the phosphoric acid rust converter with a polymeric type. This one creates a much better black coating for the top plate. Without any white dust. The workbench is very solid and heavy. It could easily hold any heavy object that two man could lift on it. Finally I have a place where to work without being worry about objects weight. |
Nicholas Farr | 17/04/2023 10:11:59 |
![]() 3988 forum posts 1799 photos | Hi Sonic Escape, Looks good, but I would have rounded off those corners of your top plate by about a 6mm or so radius. They will hurt an awful amount if you happened to catch them, as well as tearing any clothing as they are. Regards Nick. |
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