Windows 10 "upgrade" to Windows 11 Anyone tried it?

You can bypass the TPM check by changing something in the registry, allowing older machines to run it.

MS haven't made a lot of noise about this, but apparently it isn't a big deal and the fix is documented on their website.

support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ways-to-install-windows-11-e0edbbfb-cfc5-4011-868b-2ce77ac7c70e

The 'risk' is that this leaves you with a W10 level of security on your W11 machine.

Neil

Just a thought - the very old laptop I use in the workshop runs Linux Mint, and does so very well (OK it does have the odd quirk!) mainly used for internet access via Firefox. I also run several 'Windows' applications under a utility called Wine. Just wondered if anyone has tried any Windows version CAD package under this?

To be fair, Wine was quite tricky to set up and get running initially, but seems quite stable now.

Don't want to resurrect the Linux v Windows issues debate as this has been covered in depth before.

If you have new enough hardware, buying a TPM module to plug into the board (desktop), is not needed. The newer bios combined with a compatible processor, Intel or AMD can be configured without one. I have seen modules being priced at ten times their value just because some people think they are needed. And there is the added complication that there is no standard for TPM module fitting, every motherboard manufacturer has an exclusive module which will only fit and work in their own hardware. If the motherboard has a socket for fitting a TPM module, you simply do not need to fit a module to enable TPM. Much more help and info can be found on the W10 and W11 forums.

I have a 9 months old Dell inspiron

Since up grading to W11 my sky wifi drops out several times an hour.My wife's Ipad still keeps its connection. If i am following a link I sometimes find it impossible because the connection drops. Sometime the wifi turns off & i have to turn that back on

A couple of days ago microsoft mail failed & I could only get it to work by uninstalling & re installing which resulted in all folders being lost

These things did not happen until I installed W11

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 02/03/2022 19:36:13

It isn't just the processor and TPM you have to be concerned about. Due to the shortage of graphics cards, when I built my PC last year I re-used an older graphics card. Since moving to Windows 11, my PC kept freezing, and upon investigation I found that AMD had not issued Windows 11 drivers for my R9 280, and it seems to have been causing a leak in the system RAM, although oddly this didn't start until more than a month after upgrading.

My processor is an Intel "F" type, so I was fortunate to be able to pull an even older (but still supported) NVidia card from a machine running SLI, so I can still use the computer whilst waiting for my pre-ordered replacement to arrive. Others might not have spare PCs lying around. One lesson I have taken to heart however is that it would have been worth spending the extra £20 on a processor with on-board graphics, even though I had no intention to use it.

Brian G

For me, I do not see any advantages in using windows 11. As all new software, it will contain bugs. Maybe in a year or 2, when Windows 11 is mature, I will give it a try.

My latest laptop (Acer Nitro 5 with Intel I7, 32GB RAM and Nvidia Geoforce GTX graphics) was purchased for editing videos.(it is specced as a gaming machine)

What I find most annoying are the repeated messages that this laptop is suitable to run Windows 11.

Now apart from the fact that Windows 10 was supposed to be the last version (a bit like putin's promises) I am concerned that somehow windoze 11 might be forced onto my laptop, with all the attendant privacy issues as referred to by previous posts.

Also, the forced 'update' downloads, almost daily, affect my connection speed and my data limits.

Not impressed!

* Danny *

Mike Hurley,

I use 32 bit TurboCad (18 I think) running on VIsta (I had an official copy) under Oracle's Virtualbox, on laptops running Ubuntu. All files are saved into a shared directory which I can access directly from Ubuntu, should I need to (without running VirtualBox). Works well.

Regards Tom

Mike,

I use Mint v. 19.3. I have used Mint since v 13. During this period Wine has gone from v.2.x to 6.x. Initially I used DesignCAD v2000, a Win32 bit program, which worked quite well but not perfectly. DesignCAD 17.2 would not work at all under Wine 2.x These days I use DC17.2 under whatever the latest version is of Wine and apart from the odd little quibble mainly to do with on-screen labelling, it works quite well. To be fair, DC17.2 is now quite old, ie about 2006/07 but it does all that I want.

FWIW, I have also used Paint Shop Pro v. 7 via Wine under Linux Mint with no problems, although I now use The Gimp. I have also resurrected Lotus Smartsuite under Wine. The only reason for using PSP & Smartsuite is because I still have old stuff saved under their proprietary formats which I can't open any other way, so what I do now is that when I come across an old file, I open it and then immediately save it under something more modern that I can then open using The Gimp or Libre Office as appropriate.

I have used Oracle's VirtualBox to firstly load Windows XP, and then via XP to load a DOS based database program which at the time I could not get to run under Linux in any other way. It was rather messy, and when, with some help, I got the database running via DOSEmu, I immediately dropped Virtual Box. Like Tomfilery, I too could save my data in a shared directory.

Although as I say, I am using old programs, and have no desire to update them, Wine has improved tremendously since v.2.x and I would suggest that it may well be possible to run a lot more Win32 bit programs under Linux.

Peter G. Shaw

You'd be amazed how simple things become if you fit a front panel, swappable bay for SSD drives (on a desktop) and a pair of matching SSD drives.

When Win10 came out I made a copy of my existing 8.1 on the second drive then let that copy update to Win10. Ran with it for a while, decided it wasn't for me, plugged the other SSD (8.1) back in and ran with it.

I'm now playing with that old, mostly unused, Win-10 SSD to see if it will update to Win-11.

Gives me something to do.

Hi there Mr Greene. I agree with you regarding the swappable front bays. They come in a variety of configurations from single 3.5" drive to 4 x 2.5" drives. Mine is shown below and takes either, although the the 3.5" bay will take a 2.5" drive using an adapter. Very handy if you want to clone HDD's/SSD's or just change the operating system.

As for windows 11, I think its all part of a scheme to boost the sale of new PC's. Lots of people MUST HAVE the latest tech, no matter what.

Edited By Anthony Knights on 04/03/2022 07:51:50

Edited By Anthony Knights on 04/03/2022 07:53:20