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Raymond Sanderson 214/03/2018 00:04:28
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 13/03/2018 07:49:27:

Posted by Raymond Sanderson 2 on 12/03/2018 22:53:41:

was going to seriously consider taking out more digital subscriptions this year BUT as the cost for same does not reflect the lack of manufacture and distribution cost incurred and then past on to consumer its not worth the screen time to read.

Magazines are not like sardines, where the container and oil costs more to make than the fish.

The paper, printing and distribution is a significant cost, but the costs of putting together each issue (including paying all our wonderful contributors!) are too and Pocketmags don't offer their services for free.

Neil

So they are not a consumer orientated item?? One which must keep pace with taste and cost and quality or value for paid $$$.???? Sales must be excellent then Neil.
This is NOT about the magazine itself although you seem to have gone a long way to make it appear that way ad my management of my files.

It is however about the support and people whom the magazine is distriduted by as well as advertised BUT is poorly supported in many ways. Regardless we pay for that service and IF we can not complain, point out low standards of service by a contractor that again we pay for it leaves me to wonder if there is NO other choice of contractor for management to choose from.

Journeyman John has in essence gone through everything I have in my aim to sort this out. SSD and Microsofts/Pockemags App problem of NOT loading etc that took ages before finally it go to where I could NOT make a choice where to do anything.

Thanks John and others.

I have not had time to delve into files and try transfer as yet, I'll get back if and when I do.



Neil Wyatt14/03/2018 11:40:59
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Sorry Ray,

I read your comment as meaning digital issues are much cheaper to distribute so they should be much cheaper than paper issues rather than just a bit cheaper.

You'll be aware we no longer promote our digital subscriptions as working on a PC, following the original issues you had after the ending of Pocketmags bringing out new versions of the Windows reader.

Neil

Fowlers Fury14/03/2018 12:21:08
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I find saving copies of my digitally-subsribed MEW irksome on the pc. It seems on my system (Firefox, Win10 and full Acrobat), I can only click on 3 selected pages of an issue to 'print to pdf'. This entails creating numerous, numbered pdf files which I then have to combine with Acrobat. (I don't want to save pages of adverts or articles of no potential interest).

As for Ray's comments about digital issues ought to be cheaper than the printed versions - is it not the case that since 2015 that VAT has been charged on e-magazines, whilst printed magazines remain zero rated?

"Sales of printed books, newspapers and magazines are exempt from VAT in the UK, while their online equivalents are taxed. VAT generated £108bn a year in the UK last year, representing 21pc of the country’s annual tax revenues."

Dullnote14/03/2018 12:36:17
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Hi regarding the price of digital, yes I would like it cheaper, but I don’t know the price of server space apps development, so it could be right

Regarding Pocketmags I have had issue in trying to download, and e-mailed about themabout it, each time they have come back to me, last time something must have happened as I have had no issues over the last 2 months, they also extended my subscription as way of recompense.

I much prefer the digital, I can store the easy, any series I want I cut and form a eclotronic copy for future use. I agree Pocketmags are no use for searching but it is a mag distributor, if I need to search I use the main site, where I can get access to all digital copies.

Everything I read now is through iPad , hundreds of books, mag, drawing,sheet music and daily news. iPad just takes up same space.

Digital for me all the time

Raymond Sanderson 214/03/2018 12:39:25
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 14/03/2018 11:40:59:

Sorry Ray,

I read your comment as meaning digital issues are much cheaper to distribute so they should be much cheaper than paper issues rather than just a bit cheaper.

You'll be aware we no longer promote our digital subscriptions as working on a PC, following the original issues you had after the ending of Pocketmags bringing out new versions of the Windows reader.

Neil

Thats right Neil or they should be but not when that is past through many hands.

No not aware of that at all. Looking at this page it sure doesn't mention that at all in fact it shows clearly across all formats.
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JasonB14/03/2018 13:18:15
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Look at the logo below the big screen!

Neil Wyatt14/03/2018 13:40:03
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Perhaps best not to tell the world that you are making PDF copies folks, the T&Cs for digital subscriptions specifically forbid it. Why? Because we are plagued by copyright pirates who make and sell copies of our magazines.

Neil

Dullnote14/03/2018 13:45:19
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It is a MAC I use, but like Raymond, the subs leads you to believe all platforms, what about tablets or is it iPad only? The advert should be clear on where these can be read and what will or will not work

Tricky14/03/2018 13:52:59
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The stupid thing is that if you have a PC and want to access the online archive you have to subscribe to the digital edition but downloading magazines to your PC is not supported!

Dullnote14/03/2018 13:56:07
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Just had a look at model engineer digital copy is only 38p cheaper than the printed copy, but if you get the mag you can also get the digital 46 p extra , I know this is a promotional thing to encourage you to take both.

But digital 38p per mag cheaper the print, I don’t think all the savings are being passed on to the customer

Ian McVickers17/03/2018 20:42:27
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I am new to mew, just signed up today and must admit that pocketmags must be the worst app I've seen. At the moment I'm trying to find a different way of reading and saving the issues. Pocketmags won't even let me open it unless I give it permanent access to my Microsoft account. I take it that it wants access to account details to charge me whenever it feels like it? There are plenty of reader apps out there so surely we can have a better one than this?

JasonB17/03/2018 20:49:08
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Should not be charging you anything unless you took out the subscription with Pocketmags them rather than here with MTM.

Neil Wyatt17/03/2018 21:10:51
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Posted by Tricky on 14/03/2018 13:52:59:

The stupid thing is that if you have a PC and want to access the online archive you have to subscribe to the digital edition but downloading magazines to your PC is not supported!

The archive is completely separate to pocketmags and only requires internet access so unlike pocketmags it isn't platform dependent.

The number of people reading digital magazines on a windows PC is so very small Pocketmags stopped supporting them.

Neil

Ian McVickers17/03/2018 21:21:01
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Subscription was taken out here. Don't know why it won't let me even open the program without having my account info. Just had info from Neil saying that they stopped using pocketmags for pc a while ago but I'm sure I read through the info pages earlier before subscribing and pocketmags for pc I for was there but now I can't find it. The page now says it doesn't support windows.

Fowlers Fury17/03/2018 21:40:01
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There's another thread running now "Readings app for windows" have you checked it?.

If on a smart phone or tablet you're seeing that Google Android screen which wants your Google account sign-in details, at the bottom there's a tick-box which says "Skip". That will usually allow you to proceed regardless.
On a pc, If you have the latest Firefox Quantum, you can access the mags without doing any more than just entering your Pocket Mags ID. FF will also allow you to save pages.

Limpet17/03/2018 21:42:57
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The number of people reading digital magazines on a windows PC is so very small Pocketmags stopped supporting them.

Neil

It's nice to know that I'm a small insignificant user!!!!! My biggest gripe with pocketmags is their support or rather lack of of it. A few months ago I had a page missing from the digital edition after several emails back and forth they told me to delete the faulty edition .And download it again. I am still waiting for the answer to my response back of how do you delete issues. It seems even pocketmags support doesn't know. I am once again in dispute with them after my subscription has stopped me using the archive even though I have print and digital. Pocketmags has got to be the worst app I have ever used.

Lionel

Neil Wyatt17/03/2018 22:17:38
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Hello Lionel,

I've seen the figures and the numbers of unique users of the windows reader each month was less than an average of one reader per title... unfortunately MEW and ME readers seem to be more PC focused than most.

Jason can explain how to delete files.

Resellers can't offer archive access because we have no access to their subscription systems and can't validate their subscriber numbers. Check their adverts and you will see they don't offer archive access.

To get or keep archive access you need to buy or renew your subscription through us using the subscriptions link on the green bar above or go to: www.model-engineer.co.uk/subscribe/. Choose the right title and it will take you to our subs website where you have to create a new account using a different password from the one for this website.

Renewal reminders from us should direct you to our subs website.

Neil

Ian McVickers17/03/2018 22:22:51
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Posted by Fowlers Fury on 17/03/2018 21:40:01:

There's another thread running now "Readings app for windows" have you checked it?.

If on a smart phone or tablet you're seeing that Google Android screen which wants your Google account sign-in details, at the bottom there's a tick-box which says "Skip". That will usually allow you to proceed regardless.
On a pc, If you have the latest Firefox Quantum, you can access the mags without doing any more than just entering your Pocket Mags ID. FF will also allow you to save pages.

I have read the other thread. I am using a windows 10 Samsung tablet. I can install the app without any issues but as soon as I try to use it it won't let me do anything without having my Microsoft account details. I have gotten round that now and can open the app but it won't find anything when I search for new magazines. In fact it can't seem to find any magazines at all. I will have a look at FF thanks.

Fowlers Fury17/03/2018 23:18:14
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Ian ~ I've no idea what Samsung might do with their version of Win10 but assume they drive you to use M/soft Edge. It's not my choice of browser but have to admit if I access my PocketMags account with Edge on my desktop pc, I get the same functionality as I do with Firefox Quantum (i.e. it opens with HTML5 reader and I can "print to pdf"
I don't get the requirement to enter my M/soft account details.
However, from that above, you'll appreciate I don't use any app but go through the Pocket Mags url (https://pocketmags.com/login). Have you tried doing that on your Samsung?
It's no consolation to you of course but I can "read" all the MEWs available since starting my subscription.
I have no probs either accessing them via their Android app on my phone, which will also "save to device"

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Edited By Fowlers Fury on 17/03/2018 23:20:40

Ian McVickers17/03/2018 23:29:35
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I did try ff but it kept locking the tablet up so I removed it. It does use edge and I can read the issues from it ok from the website. I have managed to get access to the magazines via the https://pocketmags.com/login , just got that working 5 minutes ago, but still can't see any magazines on the app. It doesn't find anything at all when I search. I thought maybe Norton was blocking it but not so. Pinged an email off to pocketmags support so will see what they reply with. I could install the android app on my note 8, in fact I wonder if I do that can I transfer the files to my tablet and read them from there or will the formats be different? Something to play with tomorrow because the Disaronno lube is doing odd things to the keyboard.

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